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Re: [amibroker] Re: RC1 telling me my reg has expired



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Tomasz -  Thanks for all you've done and Brian has summed it up wonderfully. Although I'd like to add that we're also grateful that, in addition to Brian's list, you've left your young family and traveled to the Amibroker conference for the last 3 years to tell us about your plans and to pick up some feedback. I regret not being there for the last one.  Health permitting I'm looking forward to the next one.
In gratitude
Joe L.
Houston
 
(this is called beating a dead horse but I couldn't hold back)
To put the cost of Amibroker in perspective where it pales in comparison to someone who buying services in the US.  The low end cost of doing business (or a hobby) is at least the cost of 1) a data provider which will run a minimum of 350(Usd) a year, 2) Internet access at 240(Usd) and potentially a advisor newsletter or so at minimum 150(Usd) a year.
 
  
 
----- Original Message -----
From: brian_z111
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:35 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: RC1 telling me my reg has expired

To be fair:

People have forgotten the point that you maintain bug free backward
compatibility going back a long way and you don't force people to
upgrade.

They have also forgotten the main point that for all of us AB is an
educational, hobby business, business or employment cost and compared
to other costs in those categories AB is peanuts (trading has the
lowest overheads of any legal business that I know off).

I agree you do spoil us.

I don't know of any other product that I have purchased where I can
give the CEO an opinion, let alone try to demand that a certain
feature be designed into the next model (all or most succesful
businesses do carry out market research, using focus groups, but none
that I know of do it across the board, day in, day out, the way that
you do).

brian_z

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, "Tomasz Janeczko \(groups\)"
<groups@xxx> wrote:
>
> Major upgrade is the upgrade that adds major number of new features.
> Each our 0.01 beta is more "MAJOR" than major releases of other
T/A softwares.
>
> Therefore it is more than justified to call 0.1, MAJOR upgrade
especially considering the fact
> that AB version number consists of THREE parts:
> X.WY.Z
>
> Where
> X is incremented just when W generates carry over (9->0)
> W increases with major release that is cumulative version of TEN
previous
> (beta) versions each containing a couple of NEW features
> Y increases with each BETA that contains NEW FEATURES
> Z increases with versions that contain only hot-fixes and bug-fixes
>
>
> You are just spoiled receiving FREE upgrades for FOUR years, even
though
> I originally promised that 5x0.10 major release cycle will span
only one year.
> It was my goodwill to add MORE new features in each and every +0.10
increment.
>
> If I was doing business "IT industry standard way" I would add ONE
new feature
> per 0.10 upgrade. Instead you got a couple of new features every
0.01 BETA.
>
> So our 0.10 is SUPER MAJOR release as compared to "IT standard".
>
> Now $99 is a fee for 12 month period if there are more 3 or more
than 3 0.1 releases
> during 12 month period. Other companies would charge you more than
that
> for EACH upgrade.
>
> Frankly speaking I would love to purchase the software that uses
> the same upgrade policy as AmiBroker, but I don't find any (among
ones
> I am interested in). Everyone charges for each and every upgrade
and the sums
> are much larger than that.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "original_nightstalker" <nightstalker@...>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:21 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: RC1 telling me my reg has expired
>
>
> >
> > Apologies - let me correct the misunderstanding. I didn't mean to
> > imply that I HAD been paying $99 for every 12 months. But from
now
> > on, according to the website, $99 is the upgrade fee for the next
12
> > months. In other words, to stay fully up to date, would cost $99
per
> > year. At least, that's how I read the info on the website.
> >
> > I'm not for one moment trying to imply that Tomasz doesn't
deserve the
> > income - of course he does. I've been a fervent AmiBroker user,
fan,
> > and recommender for several years and will continue to do so.
> >
> > It's just that we're starting to get into the realms of the Law of
> > Diminishing Returns, where the outlay goes up disproportionately
to
> > the amount of new features that I actually need or would use.
> >
> > I'm still very happy with my v5.09 beta - it does everything I
use it
> > for without a hitch. So I'll simply keep on using it.
> >
> > The version numbering is something that I find a little
confusing -
> > I've been involved in computers for over 35 years, and MAJOR
upgrades
> > usually involve an increment in the number to the left of the
decimal
> > point. Minor upgrades increase the number to the right of the
decimal
> > point. That has been the de facto standard for version numbering
> > throughout the IT industry as I've known it since the mid-1970s.
> > Hence my somewhat befuddled surprise that 5.10 was considered a
MAJOR
> > upgrade. I'd have called it version 6 if that was the case.
Version
> > 5.10 would normally be seen as an UPDATE rather than an UPGRADE -
if
> > you see what I mean.
> >
> > Gee - I really hate to be picky - it's not usually like me at
all ;)
> >
> > Hope that has cleared up my statement about paying $99 per year -
> > referring to the future from now on, rather than the past until
now.
> >
> > Regards, Pete, Brisbane, Australia.
> > ====================================
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not trying to beat you up about your decision but I seriously
doubt
> > you've
> >> been having to pay for upgrades every 12 months. You might want
to
> > revisit
> >> that.
> >>
> >> d
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
> >
> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >
> > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >
> > For other support material please check also:
> > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

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