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Good question.
First, I am not out to create the need by talking it up.
People are either satisfied with what we have, or they are not.
They want to do something about it, or they don't (it appears that
they don't because there are no new messages in my mailbox, which is
OK by me).
I take your point that many would see the ATP as a duplicate and
wasted effort etc.
I did outline some of the points of difference at 'my' site.
Note: my host appears to be down at the moment, which is what you get
with an amateur production - I picked the first host from a 'webhost
review page' but the intention is to move quickly to a quality host
anyway.
It is only my personal perception - a couple of examples:
- the UKB is owned and administered by AmiBroker, whereas the ATP is
a community owned project
- the UKB can't be extended without agreement from Tomasz and he is
too busy to spend much time on it
- what Tomasz is supplying, for free, at the UKB is very basic and
better hosting packages can be purchased elsewhere, for a small fee,
and he won't have to do any admin
- this messageboard is owned by AmiBroker, and hosted by Yahoo, and
nothing can be extended here.
...and so on
One of the main points of difference is that the UKB was a non-
commercial community effort site and only 4 people from 7000 wanted
to join in.
Was that because they didn't want to, were too busy or found the site
unattractive or too hard to use?
I am addressing the latter point and giving people the option to
say, "yes I will contribute if the site is easier to use and I don't
have to sign an AmiBroker contract".
There is another group of people who might want to join in if the
site is higher quality and they can tag their contributions with
their commercial moniker (a not unreasonable request).
So that is the group I am targeting:
people who like to control their own destiny and/or people who would
like to participate but can't because they have, or would like to
have, commercial interests.
If they are not interested then no-one is interested.
I can assure you that what we can have and what we do have are a
million miles apart (please use your imagination to fill in the gap).
brian_z
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ken Close <ken45140@xxx> wrote:
>
> Brian: I am curious what is the need(s) you are trying to meet with
the new
> site that cannot (or is not) be met with your UKB and this forum.
Applause
> for all the work you do, but one wonders whether the extra time to
> create/manage/contribute to the new project would not yield "more
return" if
> applied to expanding the current tools rather than creating what
looks like
> a duplicate. My apologies if you answered this in another post,
which I
> missed if you did.
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of brian_z111
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:08 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: OT: AmiBrokerTradersProject
>
> Try the URL again.
>
> http://www.amibrokertradersproject.com/
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
> >
> > As many of you would know I was involved in the joint venture
that
> > dreamed up, and started, the UKB.
> >
> > Two points about it:
> >
> > - first I would never have become involved except for the fact
that
> > Tomasz and/or Herman showed a belief in me that my resume didn't
> > warrant.
> >
> > - second I am proud of it but I am also a realist and it is a
> failure
> > (the community voted with their feet).
> >
> > I learnt a lot from the experience and I have started a new
project
> > that eliminates some of the weaknesses of the UKB and adds some
new
> > strengths (IMO).
> >
> > The project is self-explanatory.
> >
> > Please see:
> >
> > www.amibrokertradersproject.com
> >
> >
> > Note that I alone am responsible for the project, up to this
stage.
> > I had preliminary discussions on the subject with AB/Tomasz and
please
> > note that IT IS NOT AN AMIBROKER PROJECT and IT IS NOT SUPPORTED
BY
> > AMIBROKER.
> >
> > The site currently has basic but adequate communication
facilities and
> > if there is any support around for the project the coms will be
ramped
> > up so please - ALL DISCUSSION WILL BE CARRIED OUT AT THE ATP SITE
> >
> > Hope you like it.
> >
> > If not I get to spend more time at the beach this year.
> >
> > brian_z
> >
>
>
>
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