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Amen ... let reason prevail
Ara
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Helicopter Ben :-)
> Hello Yuki,
>
> I'm glad you thought to take exception to my off handed comments. It
> generated a lot of thoughts on this thread.
> As far as my politics and religion are concerned, I am happy to share
> my thoughts. I am a religious liberal and a political centrist.
> Neither left, right, top , nor bottom. I believe that everyone with
> a sound argument is right, even when they are in direct opposition
> with another person's sound argument. There is little black and
> white in this world. Most are shades of gray and what is right
> depends on the particular time and situation. Good advice for stock
> traders too.
>
> As far as free markets are concerned vs government interference, I am
> for the maximum amount of freedom that is practical. I believe the
> role of the government should be to encourage entrepreneurship and
> competition, while ensuring a level playing field. The government
> should only get directly involved in sponsoring things that are in
> the public's best and long term interest. Things that the private
> sector will not tackle do due to the scale of the project or the lack
> of profit motive. Many things fall into this category, but not as
> many as the government tries to control now.
>
> Instead of our recent governments focus on 4 year election cycles, it
> should focus on making the WORLD healthy and prosperous 100 years
> out. However, I also believe that people get the government they
> deserve (in a democracy). If the average individual is voting for
> movie stars instead of statesmen, then they will get bedtime stories
> and special interests controlling the government instead of real
> progress. Most voters base their choice on a single point of selfish
> interest!
>
> I am well aware of the shortcomings of the average person to be
> fearful of not getting all that is possible (greed), or fearful of
> losing what they have. It is all just a big game with a set of
> agreed rules. However, we do need a referee to call foul and make
> sure the rules are followed, or we will end up settling our
> differences in most unpleasant ways.
>
> Peace to you,
> Dennis
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Yuki Taga wrote:
>
>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>> Think about what you said compared to the reality of the situation.
>> Nearly unregulated free-market capitalism (as in CDOs, SIVs, et al)
>> just about brought down the house.
>>
>> It's a funny cognitive dissonance. Ultra-right religious
>> conservatives (not saying you are one), who are often also pure
>> laissez faire market people (ditto), accept the negatives of human
>> nature as inevitable when it comes to moral issues. But somehow,
>> this same negative human nature is presumed, one would apparently
>> suppose, to just vanish once human beings step forth into the holy
>> cathedral of completely unregulated capitalism. "Let the markets run
>> themselves completely," they say. But every time they get their way,
>> they or the markets just about run the truck into a ditch.
>>
>> There. If you start a thread with serious potential for *conflict*,
>> Dennis, load the wagons! ^_-
>>
>> Yuki
>>
>> P.S. Given the non-zero sum nature of equity markets, and their
>> size, it's probably not a bad idea to do something in an attempt to
>> stop potentially trillions upon trillions of dollars from simply
>> being panicked out of existence. Money is simply uncreated, to use a
>> rather ugly phrase, for the most part. That was allowed to happen in
>> the early 1930s, with pretty sad consequences.
>>
>> Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 12:38:32 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> DB> Hello Tomasz,
>>
>> DB> There are many of us in this country (USA) that want to see the
>> DB> markets take care of themselves. Unfortunately not enough are
>> aware
>> DB> of the issues involved and there is only one person running for
>> DB> President that has that goal --Ron Paul.
>>
>> DB> It may take a complete financial disaster before everyone wakes up
>> DB> and realizes that centralized control does not work well. No
>> small
>> DB> committee can understand all the factors involved in an
>> economy. If
>> DB> they could, then it follows that a small number of people (or an
>> DB> individual) could know enough to make a quick fortune in
>> fundamental
>> DB> investing. And we know how hard that is to achieve!
>>
>> DB> Best regards,
>> DB> Dennis
>>
>> DB> On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> So helicopter Ben is in full panic mode now :-)
>>>>
>>>> It is pretty amazing and funny to see how this "free economy" is
>>>> hand-operated :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>
>>>>
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