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Howard:
It goes without saying that books on software versions get outdated rather quickly and I was reminded this week about what might work in this case.  That is "the missing CD" concept.  I bought a book for a new version of Adobe PhotoShop called the Missing Manual and on the inside back cover were notes "the missing CD-ROM" and "there's no CD with this book and you just saved $5" while referring you to a web site. In this case the web site is free for all who purchase the book or know about the link that provides add ons and graphics images.  In your case I'd expect you'd want to be compensated for providing a web site that keeps up with versions and provides example scripts.  Of course it depends on how you write the book, but I've seen Bill Barrack's Amibroker 101 get reworked every year for the last three years and in some minor cases the functions and features of Amibroker were not completely reflected because of a recent release. 
 
Your note came up in one of our meetings this morning and many members of our group,(who have all purchased your current book) are looking forward to the release. 
 
 Best regards
Joe
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Howard B
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker Users' Knowledge Base

Help is on the way -- if you can wait a few more months.  I am in the process of writing "Introduction to AmiBroker" which will cover installation, use of the GUI features, programming afl, etc.  If everything goes as planned, it will available early 2008.

Thanks,
Howard
www.quantitativetradingsystems.com


On 7/19/07, Ton Sieverding < ton.sieverding@scarlet.be> wrote:

Correct. What's missing is a book from Que called 'Using AFL'. I'm
sure somewhere somehow there is somebody who will write it ...
Don't say not enough AFL users. There still are lot's of TradeStation,
MetaStock, Wealthlab etc. users how can read the book and switch
to the wonderful world of AmiBroker ...
 
Regards, Ton.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: brian_z321
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker Users' Knowledge Base

Ton,

Re: collating AB info (from your earlier post in this topic).

Generally the search feature and UKB were aimed at improving the
accessibility of information.

IMO all of the big ticket items are now in place.
Tomasz has given us a lot to facilitate learning over the last year
or so.

If anything significant is missing from the suite it would be an AFL
programming book and a better way to mine the information in this
groups archive.

Personally, I am pretty happy with the state of play at AB.
Consequently I am hanging up my light sabre.

Brian.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, "Ton Sieverding"
<ton.sieverding@...> wrote:
>
> I agree Herman, there are lots of problems when trying to find
> something somewhere. But let's start at the beginning and therefore
> I am happy with TJ's answer :
>
> There will be global search for all AmiBroker docs / sites
implemented in near future.
>
> Regards, Ton.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Herman
> To: Ton Sieverding
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker Users' Knowledge Base
>
>
>
> Ton, if I may jump in...
>
>
>
>
> Except for the official references all of the free code you will
find on the Internet is generously donated by users. The problem is
that most of these items are undocumented or are documented inside
the code. This is what make finding stuff so difficult. It is easy to
search for "PositionSize(" and get some hits but such searches only
answer syntax and basic usage questions. So, while users generously
donate code, their code is inefficiently distributed and rarely used.
In many cases you might as well drag your code into your Recycling
Bin.
>
>
>
>
> Adding tutorial content to your code and posting it in an
appropriate category on the UKB will increase usage of your work many
fold.
>
>
>
>
> It will take some behavior modification for users to realize the
inefficiency of the current code distribution system; it sucks!
>
>
>
>
> The extra effort will result in a payback that will follow with
some delay; but it will definitely follow and reward you with
comments and related solutions that will be posted by readers.
>
>
>
>
> Bottom line: If you really want to have your code used and you
want to raise the performance level of the AmiBroker community,
publish it on the UKB. It is simply the most effective way to share
code and ensure its usage - if that is your objective.
>
>
>
>
> The UKB is NOT for the elite AmiBroker user. Anyone can comment!
The greatest ideas come from newcomers who enter TA with an unbiased
approach and who dare to speak up. I speak from personal experience;
when I came to TA from the electronics field many of my ideas were
sniggered at...some are now common place and supported by build-in
functions.
>
>
>
>
> I foresee a translation button on the site that will allow
posting in any language, there are many European countries that have
AmiBroker groups. The scope of the UKB site is only limited by your
imagination...
>
>
>
>
> best regards,
>
> herman
>
>
>
>
> Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 4:41:09 AM, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >
> Brian when talking about UKB, I like what I see. But there
is a 'but'. What I would
>
> like to have is a kind of online search engine that covers
all AmiBroker sources.
>
> When I have a problem with AmiBroker and/or AFL and am
looking for an answer,
>
> I must do 10 and more search actions before getting that
answer. In most cases
>
> the requested information is available but it takes a lot
of time to get it out of the
>
> scattered sources. With UKB there is an extra source and
therefore an extra
>
> search action needed. Why not getting things under one
umbrella ?
>
>
>
> Regards, Ton.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: brian_z321
>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:47 AM
>
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker Users' Knowledge Base
>
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, "Michael.S.G."
<OzFalconAB@>
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi Herman,
>
> > You can merge
>
> http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty/AB_Trading_Framework/
>
> > into UKB if you think it will fit in anywhere.
>
>
>
>
> Hello Michael,
>
>
>
>
> I haven't read the framework as yet.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, we would love to have your contributions at the UKB in
their own
>
> right but also to consolidate.
>
>
>
>
> I hope you will become an Author; you would be ideal for
that role.
>
>
>
>
> Over at the UKB the party hasn't started. We are still
setting up and
>
> the party lights are in the box in the floor if you know
what I mean.
>
> IF anyone wants to get involved with the dirty work they
are welcome
>
> but that isn't essential.
>
>
>
>
> You can just sign the the Contributor Agreement, send
Herman an email
>
> asking to join the AmiBroker-UKB and start writing (as long
as you
>
> can ignore the background noise that Herman and I are
making as we
>
> build the stage then there won't be a problem).
>
>
>
>
> We haven't decided on what we will do if people want us to
upload
>
> stuff for them. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
>
> I am not saying we won't do it but at the moment we can't.
>
>
>
>
> We would prefer if people become Authors and post their own
stuff as
>
> we don't have the bodies or the systems in place to provide
an upoad
>
> service (not at the moment anyway).
>
> The mechanics of how to do that can be discussed within the
AmiBroker-
>
> UKB.
>
>
>
>
> > Sorry I havn't been following UKB discussions, Can you
explain the
>
> > relation of
>
> > http://www.amibroke
< http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/>r.org/userkb/
>
> > <http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/> and
>
> > http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty/UKB/
>
>
>
>
> We haven't discussed these points but as I understand it:
>
>
>
>
> The UKB is built on the free software program WordPress.
>
> The software is customizeable to some extent.
>
> AmiBroker is the administrator for the UKB and has
installed
>
> WordPress on .org as the host site. It has been tweaked to
suit our
>
> needs.
>
>
>
>
> Nothing has been said about the thirdparty site.
>
> I assume that AB will continue with it as before; an FTP
site for
>
> those who want to share files etc via that path.
>
>
>
>
> Personally I will be taking down the UKB demo structure
that I put
>
> there for discussion use while the UKB was in its formative
stages.
>
> It looks like I might leave one UKB folder there as we
don't have a
>
> file section at the AmiBroker-UKB and so we have a need for
a place
>
> to swap files amongst the Authors.
>
>
>
>
> In the longer term, as the UKB grows, the need for FTP file
sharing
>
> might actually grow.
>
> Maybe someone will come in and push a project that will
give us a
>
> more efficient way to manage file sharing in conjunction
with the UKB.
>
>
>
>
> Who nows?
>
> It comes down to the users, their needs and how good a case
they can
>
> put up to Tomasz.
>
>
>
>
> > & how do you find UKBfrom the main AmiBroker site?
>
>
>
>
> There is no link at present.
>
> Murthyuresh posted on this point.
>
> It has been put on the discussion list at the Authors forum.
>
>
>
>
> I get the impression that Tomasz is in the middle of a bout
of
>
> intense programming at the moment ( I wonder what he could
be
>
> writing?).
>
> He looks after us well at the UKB but we only get our share
of
>
> attention.
>
>
>
>
> When he can get to it I am sure he will let us know what he
has
>
> decided to do on this one.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for your interest, questions and offer of
the 'framework'.
>
>
>
>
> Brian.
>


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