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> TJ> 3.
> TJ> Not everything can be put on "top level" menu. Anyway - you can
> TJ> assign custom keyboard shortcut to any menu so you are free
> TJ> to assign this too.
>
> Really? Can you give me an example of how I can customize the
> context menu like that? I'd love to do it.
Yuki, you are not reading carefully. I wrote: "you can assign custom ***KEYBOARD*** shortcut"
FYI: the context menu is a duplicate of what you see in Symbol->Watch List-> submenu.
And they are identical in both places. This is what it called consistency.
And I consider it advantage. "Most often use" thinking lead to some flawed designs.
Microsoft has tested this idea on their "dynamic" menus that change all the time
depending on how frequently you use given feature. I turn this off
as soon as I can and I know that lots of others do. Consistency is good.
Watch for next "most frequent use" approach in Office 2007. They made HUGE
"Paste" button and put it as a very first button in the toolbar
because people people use Paste most often according to
their "research". http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/09/14/467126.aspx
They just forgot one simple fact that most do pastes by Ctrl+V
and not by pressing toolbar.
What I may do in the future is just to remove the "Delete" item from context menu
so people won't be able click it (and subsequent confirmation box) without thinking
(the only way to delete symbol will be to go to Symbol top menu).
And no, I don't want UI polls. They are useless. To paraphase some joke that I heard
"where there are 2 people discussing UI there are already 3 different opinions about it".
> "Would you really like to launch this nuclear missile -- this action
> CANNOT be undone?",
And comparing deleting single symbol data (that definitelly CAN be undone by re-importing
the data) to lauching nuclear missile is HUGE, I mean HUGE exaggeration.
No thank you I don't want to discuss things that way. EOT.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuki Taga" <yukitaga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] missing symbols help please
> Hi Tomasz,
>
> You are right of course, but ...
>
> Sunday, March 4, 2007, 7:33:24 PM, you wrote:
>
> TJ> 1. There are TWO words that are different and they are used
> TJ> in specific context:
> TJ> the DELETE - in AB means deletion from database
> TJ> REMOVE - means removal from watch list without deleting it from database.
>
> "Delete" appears on the first-level context menu, and it isn't clear
> until the dialog box pops up that, "what is being *deleted* from
> what". Is it a problem to reconfigure the context menus? You know
> the implied context of course, because you wrote the program. Do you
> imagine that everyone thinks like you do, or can read your mind? I
> didn't think so.
>
> TJ> 2. There is a confirmation box saying CLEARLY that when you choose
> TJ> DELETE - the symbol will be deleted from the DATABASE.
> TJ> Database is written in UPPERCASE to make sure you read it.
>
> You are absolutely right, TJ. But is it a problem to change the
> default from "Do something that CANNOT cannot be undone" to "Do
> NOTHING, unless you choose to deliberately override a 'failsafe'
> default"? People are not, generally speaking, as careful or as clever
> as you are, TJ.
>
> TJ> If you, pressed "YES" not reading the message box then you should
> TJ> start reading message boxes.
>
> I agree one-hundred percent. I also agree that Communism is the most
> moral economic system that I can imagine. But I also understand that
> it violates basic human nature, and is thus void, and unworthy of any
> further consideration. Do you understand the parallel? (Living in
> Poland, I should think that you might.)
>
> TJ> 3.
> TJ> Not everything can be put on "top level" menu. Anyway - you can
> TJ> assign custom keyboard shortcut to any menu so you are free
> TJ> to assign this too.
>
> Really? Can you give me an example of how I can customize the
> context menu like that? I'd love to do it. The way it is currently
> laid out is an invitation to making mistakes (even though I have long
> ago learned the way it works). But to get the menu items that I (and
> probably others) *USE MOST OFTEN* on the first-level would be a nice
> improvement.
>
> They may be careless mistakes, but the default option should be "No,
> we won't do anything that can't be undone unless you choose to
> override the failsafe default". The default answer for "make a new
> symbol and add it to the database" should be *NO* (even though that
> can easily be undone). The default answer for any irrevocable
> deletion should be *NO*. Period.
>
> This is just common sense, because human nature is so imperfect. How
> can you possibly mount an intelligent argument against this? The
> defaults are ill-advised. You want to take a poll on this? I don't
> think so. But it's your program, and as such it's not subject to
> polls. But your logic is wanting here, TJ.
>
> These are things you don't want to do unless you *really* want to do
> them. The defaults should *all* be *NO*, making a user really know,
> and probably understand, what they are doing. At the very least,
> changing the defaults would make a user *think*, which I suspect you
> would be thankful for.
>
> I know that you cannot think for everyone, TJ. But I have one simple
> question for you:
>
> How would you like to live in a world where the default answer for,
> "Would you really like to launch this nuclear missile -- this action
> CANNOT be undone?", was "Yes" (just as your cat jumped onto the
> keyboard, hitting one of many "Enter" keys)?
>
> I didn't think so. The defaults need to be reconsidered.
>
> Best,
>
> Yuki
>
>
>
>
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