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[amibroker] Re: My First system



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Hello Sursod,

Thankyou.

I don't have the time to become involved in a lot of that type of 
discussion, and also the forum isn't the best possible place for it.

On the other hand, I do have a bee in my bonnet about the absolute 
rubbish that is put around about trading on the net.
I think collectively the forum can do a bit better with a little 
informal guidance here and there.

You make some interesting points for discussion.

To be fair to Mr Pardo.

The book was written in the early 90's, its a short book and it 
appears to be intended as an introductory text.
It does do a good job of that.
It does set out all of the concepts in a logical and understandable 
way.
I admit I am a very hard marker.

It's certainly a book I that I go back to.

I would like to have seen his more advanced concepts or a more in 
depth discussion of exceptions etc.


When I say that I don't agree with all of his conclusions that is my 
way of placing a disclaimer to indicate that I don't believe people 
should follow anyone blindly.

On the other hand, I appreciate that it is *a cheap shot* to make 
contrary statements without any supportive argument.
At some time in the future, when I can do a proper job of it, I might 
lay out the arguments to support some of the statements I have made 
about stats and system design etc. and give the forum a chance to 
make their critique.

Brian   *:-)




--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sursod" <sursod@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
> I enjoy your posts of ideas.
> I agree with you regarding derivative indicators although I use 
> Stochastics (SRSI) and Bollinger Band of RSI, both derivative of 
> derivative of price. Personally I do not rate any TA indicator as 
> better than 35-65% accurate and often randomness decides when. It 
is 
> more important to know the indicator we use so we understand when 
it 
> might fail then to chase newer and fancier indicators thinking 
> computation sophistication equates the holy grail.
> 
> I value Pardo's book on systems design very much but ultimately we 
> have to make our own rules and write our own script, there is no 
> holy bible and no absolute truth except the inconvenient truth at 
> the bottom line of the trading account.
> Sursod
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123" <brian.z123@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Bill,
> > 
> > 
> > I'm pleased you read the reply as I hadn't seen you around for a 
> > couple of days and thought you might have disappeared.
> > 
> > Trialling (it's not in my dictionary either - I haven't been to 
> > school for a while) = = trial and error (paper trading or virtual 
> > trading where you visualise the outcomes of your systems in your 
> > minds eye or imagination).
> > 
> > I base this approach on my theory of success (template) = = theory
> > (reading?)followed by practice (backtesting?) followed by 
> application 
> > (trading or virtual trading) and then back to the drawing board 
to 
> > fix up your mistakes - the path to success is perpetual 
> application 
> > of the above cycle (continuous improvement in business terms).
> > 
> > I discussed *The Success Template* in more detail in a previous 
> topic 
> > on Trading Psychology.
> > It was of minority interest only and some forum members didn't 
> like 
> > it at all so it may not be to your taste either.
> > 
> > Trading bank = = trading capital = = the amount of money you have 
> to 
> > trade with.
> > Depending on your definition of ruin i.e all of your capital is 
> gone 
> > or 50% of your capital is gone, once you trade to ruin it is game 
> > over until you can put together another stash (by the way ruin 
> isn't 
> > in my trading goals).
> > 
> > I understand your point on AccDis.
> > 
> > I am a liberal and free thinker.
> > As far as I am concerned feel free to speculate and use examples 
> etc 
> > in discussions.
> > There is no pressure on from me to be correct.
> > It is only a discussion.
> > 
> > If you are going to write a book etc it is a different matter.
> > 
> > Brian*:-)
> > 
> > P.S
> > 
> > I am not a training guru so feel free not to believe anything you 
> > can't verify for yourself.
> > When in doubt put it in the holding pen.
> > If it doesn't stack up throw it in the rubbish bin.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Bill Halliday <halliday_mo@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Brianzee123,
> > >    
> > >   Thank you for your response. I appreciate them very much.
> > >    
> > >    
> > >   Am I on the right track?
> > >    
> > >   Definitely.
> > > It's a long way to the top though.
> > >    
> > >   Unquestionably true!
> > >    
> > >   Suggest improvements to your approach?
> > >    
> > >   Keep doing what you are doing (reading, thinking, 
questioning, 
> > > discussing, trialling; you are in good company with AmiBroker).
> > > It will be interesting to see what you can do in a few years if 
> you 
> > > are still around. 
> > >    
> > >   I will read, think, and question. Discussing my findings in 
> this 
> > >   forum is the way I plan to verify/focus my approach. 
> > >   Trialling isn't in my dictionary, what is it?
> > >    
> > >   Suggest improvements to your system development?
> > >    
> > >   I would say to think carefully about the criteria you use to 
> > evaluate 
> > > your systems (there is discussion in Pardo about this-I will 
> read 
> > it) and to 
> > > understand the principles of money management thoroughly (there 
> are 
> > > 1000's of systems but you only have one trading bank). 
> > >    
> > >   I'm not faminiar with the term: trading bank, what is it?
> > >    
> > >   My initial reason for starting the document was to learn what 
> a 
> > >   system was composed of and how to put one into practice. 
> > >   It's a start!
> > >    
> > >   Soon I'll be up to the place where I can set realistic goals 
> for 
> > a system. 
> > >   As you point out, the Accumulation/Distribution System wasn't 
> > intended 
> > >   to be used as a system, but was only used for the purpose of 
> > learning 
> > >   to think/write/plan etc. in "Systems".
> > >    
> > >   Thank you for reviewing my approach and providing comments on 
> it.
> > >    
> > >   I look forward to your comments on my next offering.
> > >    
> > >   Bill
> > > 
> > >  
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers 
> from 
> > real people who know.
> > >
> >
>



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