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Don,

I hear what you are saying.

That sort of thing is part of the mix, that's for sure.

Don't worry.
I'm not going to make a career out of it.

BrianB2  %:-).........curlers.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Don Lindberg" <dlindber@xxx> 
wrote:
>
>  
>  I FULLY AGREE !!
> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: Fred
> Date: 9/17/2006 9:15:53 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Group File Deletions
>  
> If your time was that precious you'd be using it for something 
other
> than trying to be hall monitor.  The leader in this case may have
> elected to spend absolutely no time dealing with it which imho 
would
> have been a good choice.
>  
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123" <brian.z123@> wrote:
> >
> > ~Bman,
> >
> > I can't criticise your motives which are based on concern for 
your
> > fellow man/woman.
> > Frequently it is necessary for leaders to make tough decisions
> based
> > on the greater good e.g do we keep every file for ever because 
one
> > person might find it interesting some day or do we delete files
> with
> > little value to make it easier for, say, 100 new users to 
research
> > the collection?
> >
> > I don't know about others, but my time is like gold to me and I
> > don't think it is *cool* to rummage around amongst other peoples
> > junk files.
> >
> > I have *quickly* read every file in the database and I am 
confident
> > in saying that a lot of them are a load of old rubbish.
> > When I voted I erred on the side of caution and kept the doubtful
> > files.
> > I also allowed for a ? vote which indicates I don't know enough
> > about it to make a firm decision.
> > ?'s can stay as far as I am concerned.
> >
> > Here are three examples of the types of files we have:
> >
> > 1. years old zipped collection that contains an executable with 
no
> > notes or instructions and no reference to a #message.
> >
> > I don't want to open executables when I don't know what they are
> > going to do.
> > The site that it is referenced to i.e. yahoo sometimes changes 
it's
> > format.
> > The file probably doesn't even work anymore.
> >
> > 2. years old .CSV file with no instructions, no column headings,
> and
> > no reference to #message.
> > It appears to be a ticker list.
> > People are obsessed with stockpiling ticker lists.
> > Sources of current ticker lists are readily available for 
download
> > in various places; the exchanges are one good place to start.
> >
> > 3. sound wave files??????????
> >
> > There are a gazillion and one sound wave files easily optainable
> > from the net.
> >
> > How many of the owners of these files are still active forum
> members
> > or even paid up Ami subscribers?
> > Not one single owner of a file has come forward to say 'My file 
is
> > abc123 and this is what it is useful for and it is still current.
> > Would the forum like me to add some txt instructions?'.
> > Off course they don't have to do that but it makes me wonder.
> > If the owners don't have any pride in their own work why would I
> > place any value on it?
> >
> > That is just three examples but rest assured I considered every
> file
> > carefully and justified my vote to my own conscience.
> >
> > BrianB2.
> >
> > 2. --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brpnw1" <tradermail@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Removing files does not get my vote. You could be removing
> > something
> > > that has value for somebody else. How can one individual
> determine
> > > the value a file might have for another individual? This is
> > > impossible.
> > >
> > > I continue to stupidly delete my own old code that later on I
> find
> > I
> > > need. If I simply archived all my code, this would not be an
> > issue.
> > > So now I archive EVERYTHING. Organization is the bigger issue 
now.
> > >
> > > Removing files should never be necessary. Reorganizing them 
might
> > be
> > > helpful, though. Creating an organization system that can be
> > monkey-
> > > tested on novice users is probably the best way to go. If a
> newbie
> > > can't navigate the file structure to find what they want 
quickly
> > and
> > > easily, then don't mess with it in the first place because you
> > will
> > > not have achieved the goal.
> > >
> > > ~Bman
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is really no shortage of real estate - all the other
> > groups
> > > I listed here yesterday have plenty of free space for 
additional
> > > files...
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: Mark H
> > > >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >   Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:03 PM
> > > >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Group File Deletions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Hi Brian:
> > > >
> > > >   Instead of going though this selection voting process, how
> > about
> > > consult with TJ to see if we can move all those files to a 
folder
> > > under:
> > > >   http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty/
> > > >
> > > >   They are merely 20MB in total. Very little space indeed in
> > terms
> > > of a modern hard drive.
> > > >   Then we can put a note and a link over amibroker group file
> > > section so people can find the files.
> > > >   If this doesn't work, then we can vote,
> > > >
> > > >   - Mark H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     ----- Original Message -----
> > > >     From: brian.z123
> > > >     To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >     Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:56 PM
> > > >     Subject: [amibroker] Group File Deletions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     VOTE,VOTE, VOTE.
> > > >
> > > >     I am going to collect suggestions about the Group file
> > section
> > > to
> > > >     send to support.
> > > >     I am also inviting all forum users to vote for the files
> > they
> > > would
> > > >     like to keep in the file section.
> > > >     The format of the voting process is discussed in an
> attached
> > > post.
> > > >     At the end of the voting I will send the results to 
support
> > > and ask
> > > >     them to consider deleting files that no one or perhaps 
very
> > > few want
> > > >     to keep.
> > > >
> > > >     DO NOT EMAIL SUPPORT ON THIS ISSUE.
> > > >
> > > >     It is entirely my own initiative.
> > > >
> > > >     QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON VOTING ETC IS INVITED WITHIN
> THIS
> > > TOPIC.
> > > >
> > > >     Voting will be confidential.
> > > >     Please do not make people feel uncomfortable by 
commenting
> > on
> > > the
> > > >     votes as recorded or file ownership by name.
> > > >     A vigorous discussion on the use of the file section will
> be
> > > invited
> > > >     in a separate topic.
> > > >
> > > >     THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
> > > >     THERE IS NO GUARANTEE AT THE END THAT ANY ACTION WILL BE
> > TAKEN
> > > BY
> > > >     SUPPORT.
> > > >
> > > >     I am not sure what the outcome will be.
> > > >     It depends on the forum and whether or not we can reach a
> > > reasonable
> > > >     consensus on any issue or issues.
> > > >
> > > >     THE FINAL DECISION IN ANY CASE REMAINS WITH AMIBROKER
> > SUPPORT.
> > > >
> > > >     Don't shoot me I am only the messenger.
> > > >     This is a one-off initiative on my part.
> > > >     It does not imply that I would undertake any similar 
action
> > in
> > > the
> > > >     future or that I have any defined role or authority 
within
> > the
> > > group.
> > > >
> > > >     Thanks for your consideration of my proposals.
> > > >
> > > >     BrianB2.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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