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Michael --
"walking across a synthetic carpet etc., then contacting the components"
(before touching the outside metal case) is, in fact, a very easy way to
destroy a computer. Been there, done that.
-- Keith
Michael.S.G. wrote:
>
> Sorry Ara/Ken,
> I think this is a non issue. Else we would be having static build up
> just from all the FANs already in PC's.
> More of a problem would be walking across a synthetic carpet etc then
> contacting the components.
> ATB
> MSG
>
> Ken Henderson wrote:
> >
> > The same applies when using a vacuum cleaner to suck up dust. It to,
> > will create static.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Ara Kaloustian
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 17 September 2006 1:31 AM
> > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> >
> >
> >
> > Careful with compressed gases ... they can create a lot of static
> > electricity, unless they are designed specifically not to.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Landry" <jelandry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>
> > <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> >
> > > Hi Yuki:
> > >
> > > My tech friends use cans of compressed gas to blow off the
> accumulation,
> > > rather than
> > > risking sucking up the cpu chip or fan off of it's zip socket with a
> > > vacuum
> > > cleaner or poking around with a
> > > toothpick.
> > > I'm sure it's not chlorofluorocarbon gas in today's environment
> and the
> > > gas
> > > is said to be non ozone depleting.
> > > DusterT II Compressed Gas Air Duster, 10-oz. Can from Kensington.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > JOE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Yuki Taga" <yukitaga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>
> > <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>>
> > > To: "Keith McCombs" <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Keith,
> > >>
> > >> Anybody know how to get a P4 fan/heatsink off?
> > >>
> > >> I put it on (I built the box), and of course I'm aware of the two
> > >> primary levers that release it, but it's a partial release, not a
> > >> complete one, and I can't remember exactly how to get that thing off,
> > >> and I'm not into yanking stuff off the MB. ^_^
> > >>
> > >> With a flashlight, I can see some accumulation between the fins of
> > >> the heat sink (beyond the fan) that have to be taken care of. What
> > >> has happened is that some dust has actually formed a curtain over the
> > >> top of some of the fins, which of course is really cutting down on
> > >> the airflow. I used a toothpick to gently dislodge some of it, and
> > >> then vacuumed. But I think a more thorough job is called for. There
> > >> are no more curtains, but I can see dust.
> > >>
> > >> I have been remiss about keeping my eye on the CPU temp. It's always
> > >> run a bit on the hot side (mid 40s), and lately it's been sneaking
> > >> higher, and I haven't paid enough attention to it. This little bit
> > >> of cleaning I did dropped the temp SIX DEGREES C, so no minor deal.
> > >>
> > >> There are AB routines that will take the temp up 20 from its ambient,
> > >> so I need to be more careful. The only thing I've got monitoring it
> > >> is the old Motherboard Monitor, which is not supported any longer. It
> > >> gives me board and CPU temps, however.
> > >>
> > >> So a key question for me at this point would be, does a CPU just go,
> > >> or does it degrade, giving intermittent problems, because of long
> > >> term overheating? Given what I saw under the flashlight, I've been
> > >> slowly cooking this, and if a CPU degrades, rather than just fails,
> > >> that is most likely the seat of the problem.
> > >>
> > >> It isn't like I never clean the box, either. And I've put a vacuum
> > >> on that CPU fan before. I've always been tentative about that
> > >> however, because it actually reverses the fan blade action from it's
> > >> normal direction, which is to suck air in over the fins. I've also
> > >> blown compressed air in there, but tentatively there, too, because
> > >> compressed air can get pretty cold in a hurry (at least the can
> > >> does), and I don't know just what damage I might be doing along with
> > >> the good. Without a flashlight, it just wasn't too obvious what was
> > >> building up in there that the vacuum could not pull out. Once
> > >> dislodged though, a lot of stuff came out. But there is more dust in
> > >> there.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe I'm better off replacing the CPU, which would have to be pretty
> > >> cheap now, if I could even find one (P4 2.53 GHz).
> > >>
> > >> Thanks all,
> > >>
> > >> Yuki
> > >>
> > >> Saturday, September 16, 2006, 3:28:59 PM, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >> KM> Like Rik, I too have had CPU overheating problems. I have a small
> > >> KM> utility that came with my computer that shows and records
> > >> temperatures.
> > >> KM> If you have such, give it a try. Recently I fixed my problems
> > >> (computer
> > >> KM> shutting down completely during evening virus scans), by
> > cleaning the
> > >> KM> heat sink and fan. I also used new grease between the fan and
> cpu,
> > >> but
> > >> KM> only because I had to remove the fan in order to get two years of
> > >> dust
> > >> KM> bunnies out of it.
> > >>
> > >> KM> BTW, right now I have my "red line" set for 70 C. Normally
> the CPU
> > >> runs
> > >> KM> at 40 C, but during 1 hour full virus scan it gets up to 55 C.
> > >>
> > >> KM> Hope this helps.
> > >> KM> -- Keith
> > >>
> > >> KM> Rik Rasmussen wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have had two pc's running XP develop problems that ended up being
> > >>>> the fan
> > >>>> on the CPU. In one case it had stopped and the cpu overheated.
> In the
> > >>>> ohter
> > >>>> case, the fan was apparently running too slow to cool.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In both cases replacing the cpu fan fixed the problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Rik Rasmussen
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Yuki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
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