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Hi Bob, thanks for jumping in.  

Let me find the bottom line re. SI Pro:

"Each new CD is a snapshot of the updated database with current 
values for those fields. While it does offer multiple quarters and 
years for sales, earnings, etc., you don't get a continuous history 
of those items."

Looking at their field list, take 

EPS Q1-8

This really comprises 8 separate, different fields (or "keys" as Joe 
mentioned) on the CD:

EPS Q1
EPS Q2
..
..
EPS Q8

This is the "historical data" available per cd.

Now the only way to build a historical database, as you 
describe at the conference, is by having all past CD's. Say, for a 2-
years back database I'd need about 24 CD's. 

Well actually, for many items like EPS, with 24 CD's I'd have the 
values 4 years back because each CD goes back up to Q8, but other 
fields only have the most recent value, so I'd need 24 CD's to have 2-
years historicals of ALL fields (outside of the SI Pro program, in 
its most basic form: a weekly .csv file containing historical values 
of all their fundamental fields. I could achieve this by exporting 
data from each CD separately to .csv files.) 

If I'm correct so far, the only question that remains is: is the data 
of past CD's somehow available, like for download from the site? 

If I'm not correct, well, please correct me :) 

Thanks much guys for your patience.

-treliff

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Bob Krishfield" <bobkrish@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Joe
> 
> I previously subscribed to AAII's SI Pro for many years. It does not
> give you a database of historical fundamentals. Each new CD is a
> snapshot of the updated database with current values for those 
fields.
> While it does offer multiple quarters and years for sales, earnings,
> etc., you don't get a continuous history of those items.
> 
> I asked the AAII people at their conference, how to make a 
historical
> data base to see how fundamentals changed over several quarters and 
do
> performance reporting like they do on their screens. They use their
> large server farm to install multiple databases, i.e. one for each
> month or period they want to include in their comparisons, and then
> they must run the SI program against that database for that set of
> queries, save the results, shutdown the program and repeat the 
process
> for each point in time.  No magic here.
> 
> Bob Krishfield
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe Landry" <jelandry@> wrote:
> >
> > Treliff and Brian
> > I've got more work to do to understand what's in the one years
> subscription 
> > of SIPro with multiple CDs but
> > here's an interim reply on keys...they are the field labels, or 
the
> column 
> > headings.  Databases
> > use keys with which to organize the data and the export function
> outputs 
> > both the
> > keys in a small file  and the data in a much larger file in one
> step.  BTW 
> > you can choose the
> > database, portfolio or screening subset to export.
> > 
> > For example the keys are the XLS column headings but in a 
separate file.
> > Company Name  -  Ticker - Exchange -  SMG - IMG - Cash Flow Growth
> 12m - 
> > Sales Growth 12m...... Sales Growth 7yr
> > 
> > I thought you had a separate Fundamentals forum but I can see 
where the 
> > files are being placed.
> > 
> > Planning to load more than one CD sequentially to see if a new 
month's 
> > version updates common fields or
> > if it adds additional history to the set.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > JOE
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "treliff" <treliff@>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:33 PM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Historical Fundamental Data
> > 
> > 
> > > NOTE:
> > >
> > > I just wanted to submit a reply to Brian and Joe's earlier 
posts when
> > > I noted Brian's newest. Allow me to post mine anyway with 
apparently
> > > some similar requests to Joe re. SI Pro.
> > >
> > > Brian thanks for your gargantuan effort in listing all the 
sites.
> > > Forgive me though for pointing out that the heading:
> > >
> > > 1. most likely sites for exportable historical fundamental data
> > >
> > > seems very optimistic. I have not visited all sites but many I 
know
> > > and know OF that they do not include hist. fundas, at least not 
on
> > > individual stocks (for example tradestools I just visited has 
index
> > > data only). SI Pro still seems the best bet so far (for US 
stocks).
> > >
> > > Anyway my original reply:
> > >
> > > Joe, thanks very much for explaining about SI Pro export. I'm 
not
> > > sure what is a "key", is it one of the main categories like
> > >
> > > Balance Sheet (Annual)
> > > Growth Rates
> > > Multiples
> > >
> > > as used in their field list
> > >
> > > http://aaii.com/stockinvestor/programinfo/SIProFieldList.pdf
> > >
> > > If I counted correctly there are 20 of these "categories" and 
you
> > > mention 22 tables/files so I assume one can export one category 
at a
> > > time. Still not clear exactly what a "key" is. If indeed you 
could
> > > post some in the files section that would be great.
> > >
> > > One other thing, if I may. On the AAII site it says:
> > >
> > > "Quarterly data is available from the last eight quarters and 
annual
> > > data spans the last seven years"
> > >
> > > Does that mean that every separate (monthly) CD contains data 
back as
> > > in the quote above? Or does a monthly CD only contain the past
> > > month's data?
> > >
> > > Joe sorry for requests piling up on you. I guess we could just 
go for
> > > the money back guarantee:
> > >
> > > "Test Stock Investor Pro on your PC, for as long as a year, 
before
> > > you decide if it is right for you."
> > >
> > > but without further explanation. I assume one pays the full 
yearly
> > > fee and if not satisfied, try to get reimbursed. Seems like a 
great
> > > deal, too good to be true really, so probably not as easy as it
> > > sounds indeed. (I'd be the last to ask money back if the 
service is
> > > indeed what I expect, let me get that straight :)
> > >
> > > Brian, re. "kicking out the previous value" indeed I mean that 
at
> > > most sites only the current (most recent) value is available. 
With a
> > > QP subscription there is no way to trace last April's short 
interest
> > > on the stock (just an example), 1st) because the QP site 
doesn't give
> > > access to these hist. data (if they have stored it at all), 2nd)
> > > because AB does not store past values in an array (and btw 
neither
> > > does it this with the new Yahoo fundas): yesterday's value is 
lost
> > > once today's value is imported (please correct me if I'm wrong).
> > >
> > > Now even within these limitations the various sites have their
> > > nuances. Brian, you might as well leave tbsp out (I use `m for 
option
> > > data) because their funda fields are very few and there is even 
no
> > > way to export them from their analysis program (and it doesn't 
store
> > > historicals, of course).
> > >
> > > With Zacks, which I have used since Nov '05 to start building
> > > historicals (I chose Zacks because of their Zacks rank and 
upcoming
> > > earnings dates) I do it the hard way: run a screen, copy/paste 
the
> > > data from the web page into excel, run a macro pre-crunching 
the data
> > > and shuffling everything into 6 columns (OHLCVI) for AB ascii 
import
> > > using good'ol artificial tickers 2_MSFT, 3_MSFT etc. (Let me 
just
> > > mention I had to google "SQL" so that's probably not for me...)
> > >
> > > Meanwhile I have built a half year's data but I was only able to
> > > focus on a limited amount of fields because, in combination 
with a
> > > large amount of stocks, the webscreener just can't handle 
anymore. Of
> > > course it wasn't intended for this kind of use, but I have e-
mailed
> > > Zacks and asked if I could BUY the raw data but nope, they don't
> > > offer this. (On 2nd thought, after a few months copy/pasting, it
> > > turns out the data quality is terrible, aarrggh...).
> > >
> > > So it's free but sloppy and I'd prefer to pay a fair amount for 
a
> > > neat .csv if only historicals were included.
> > >
> > > Thanks again All for the discussion so far.
> > >
> > > -treliff
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123" <brian.z123@> 
wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Third time lucky?
> > >>
> > >> 
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/Fundamental%
> > >> 20Data/
> > >>
> > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123" <brian.z123@>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello Joe,
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks to you and also treliff for jumping in and putting 
some
> > >> > weight on the oars; we have moved a little further up the 
stream.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think there will be a lot more questions about the subject 
when
> > >> > the SQL plug-in comes out.
> > >> > It is all new to me, as it will be to most others.
> > >> > Prior to this I couldn't find a retail program that would 
allow
> > > me
> > >> > to use fdata inputs in formulas.
> > >> > Of course, I haven't tried every single program e.g I 
bypassed
> > >> > Tradestation as it is 'trading platform' based and since 
9/11 USA
> > >> > regulators have tightened up on foreign investors and TS no
> > > longer
> > >> > accepts accounts from US non-residents.
> > >> > Prior to this I did my funda analysis by manually entering 
data
> > > to
> > >> > Xcel, and that was for the Aussie market only.
> > >> >
> > >> > So for the list of sites I have posted there are a lot of
> > >> questions
> > >> > to be answered and trefill's question is one of the more
> > > important
> > >> > ones.
> > >> >
> > >> > 'Will an AAII subscription truly enable me to pour all past 
data
> > >> > into a .csv file?'
> > >> >
> > >> > It is a question equally as relevant to all the sites.
> > >> >
> > >> > The reason I posted the list in the first place was because 
the
> > >> > inititial reaction of many would be to go straight for the 
AAII
> > >> > version or perhaps similar sources.
> > >> > By questioning a little further perhaps we will find about 
the
> > >> pros
> > >> > and cons of each site in advance, and in some cases, save
> > >> ourselves
> > >> > some time and money.
> > >> > There are also going to be additional problems with f 
databases
> > >> > compared to price databases; price only comprises 6 fields
> > >> > (OHLCVOI), the fields/formats are standard across all 
providers,
> > >> > data is precisely time dependent, data is continuous and
> > > histories
> > >> > are complete and deep in most cases i.e apples = apples 
almost
> > >> every
> > >> > time.
> > >> > The opposite applies to fdata in all five areas.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Re your comments.
> > >> >
> > >> > No it is not more than we need to know.
> > >> > It is spot on.
> > >> >
> > >> > So far, as I understand it, AAII has 100-200 data fields
> > > available
> > >> > with varying number of years available for each.
> > >> > The screening software will export in a suitable format for 
AB
> > > but
> > >> > it will not export the database in its entirety in one step.
> > >> > AB users would need to export,say, 5-10 segments of the 
database
> > >> > separately and then join them together if they wanted one
> > > database.
> > >> > Alternatively they could just keep them as,say, 10 separate 
SQL
> > >> > bases.
> > >> >
> > >> > If this is correct, it leaves us with a big question mark 
over
> > > the
> > >> > use of the keys (what are they and what are they for) and 
also
> > > the
> > >> > timing of the updates (weekly/monthly are always lagging 
updates).
> > >> > There is also a minor question of whether the database will
> > > always
> > >> > be 7yrs/8qtrs or is it growing each year?
> > >> >
> > >> > The files re this topic are at the Fundamental Data folder; 
menu
> > >> at
> > >> > the top left corner of this page>files?fundamental data.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think this will take users to it:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fundamental data
> > >> >
> > >> > If you can post a .csv of one table downloaded for as many 
years
> > >> as
> > >> > you can get, with the relevant key, that would be great.
> > >> > Even screenshots pasted into Word would do.
> > >> > That would be service 'above and beyond the call of duty' and
> > >> enough
> > >> > for anyone contemplating fdata use and AAII in particular.
> > >> >
> > >> > From there interested users should move to their own trial 
via
> > > the
> > >> > money back guarentee.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have posted a text file there that I am using to keep 
track of
> > >> all
> > >> > fdata providers of any kind.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > BrianB2.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe Landry" <jelandry@> 
wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Brian - A few notes back someone mentioned that SI Pro had 
a
> > >> > feature to
> > >> > > export data.  I fired up the dated
> > >> > > version I have and found that the data is organized in 22
> > >> > tables/files that
> > >> > > can be exported one at a time.  Also there
> > >> > > are keys that get exported with each file.  If any 
interest I
> > >> can
> > >> > store 2 or
> > >> > > 3 of these keys in the files section
> > >> > > of the fundamental forum for folks to consider,  if you'll 
clue
> > >> me
> > >> > into the
> > >> > > link to that forum.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The Standard Table export consists of  6.8 MB  in XLS 
format.
> > >> > > There are 7968 issues back in 2004
> > >> > >  Formats available are XLS, Lotus, XBase(dbf), fixed  
length,
> > >> > comma
> > >> > > separated, or tab separated fields.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm still working on it but what I see are 2 dimensional
> > >> tables,
> > >> > ticker
> > >> > > rows by column data, as a sample
> > >> > > of  the Growth Rates keys table below shows.  Looks like 
the
> > >> > historical
> > >> > > aspect is relative coarse grained
> > >> > > going back 8 years on some fields, but that's expected 
since
> > > the
> > >> > statistics
> > >> > > are reported quarterly.
> > >> > > A stumper is how would you get a historical institutional
> > >> > ownership unless
> > >> > > you had collected the monthly CDs over
> > >> > > 8 years.  I could be off the mark here, and if so would
> > >> appreciate
> > >> > someone
> > >> > > setting me straight.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Probably more than you'd want to know.  Looks to be a lot 
of
> > >> work
> > >> > to
> > >> > > interface to SQL server, even with
> > >> > > the SQL Server's data transformation tool.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best regards
> > >> > > JOE
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >       short_name long_name
> > >> > >       COMPANY Company name
> > >> > >       TICKER Ticker
> > >> > >       EXCHG_DESC Exchange
> > >> > >       SMG_DESC Sector
> > >> > >       IMG_DESC Industry
> > >> > >       CFPS_G1T Cash Flow-Growth 12m
> > >> > >       SALES_G1T Sales-Growth 12m
> > >> > >       SALES_G1F Sales-Growth 1yr
> > >> > >       SALES_G3F Sales-Growth 3yr
> > >> > >       SALES_G5F Sales-Growth 5yr
> > >> > >       SALES_G7F Sales-Growth 7yr
> > >> > >       RSALES_G1T % Rank-Sales-Growth 12m
> > >> > >       RSALES_G1F % Rank-Sales-Growth 1yr
> > >> > >       RSALES_G3F % Rank-Sales-Growth 3yr
> > >> > >       RSALES_G5F % Rank-Sales-Growth 5yr
> > >> > >       RSALES_G7F % Rank-Sales-Growth 7yr
> > >> > >       SALES_G1Q5 Sales-Growth from Q5 to Q1
> > >> > >       SALES_G2Q6 Sales-Growth from Q6 to Q2
> > >> > >       SALES_G3Q7 Sales-Growth from Q7 to Q3
> > >> > >       SALES_G4Q8 Sales-Growth from Q8 to Q4
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> > > From: "brian.z123" <brian.z123@>
> > >> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:18 PM
> > >> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Historical Fundamental Data
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hello treliff,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Agreed that all historical fundamental data is not 
created
> > >> equal.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I am looking out for peoples favourites or recommended 
sites.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > It is a fair question to ask of the sites that have
> > >> screen>export
> > >> > > > software if indeed all fields can be exported in one 
file and
> > >> if
> > >> > so
> > >> > > > what is the depth (years)?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Re your comment 'the habit of kicking out the previous 
value
> > >> and
> > >> > > > simply replacing it with the new one seems to be the 
norm in
> > >> > > > fundaland'.
> > >> > > > Do you mean that many of the historical sites I have 
listed
> > >> are
> > >> > in
> > >> > > > fact only current data providers?
> > >> > > > I am trying to understand what you pointed out to us 
there.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Minor comments.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I have QP and IQ data as two providers who bundle current
> > >> fdata
> > >> > with
> > >> > > > their price data.
> > >> > > > There are probably others.
> > >> > > > It used to be a very short list but new players pop up 
every
> > >> day.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > http://www.qp2.com
> > >> > > > http://www.iqfeed.net/
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I had Stockwiz in the short list for hist fdata but the 
site
> > >> has
> > >> > > > changed recently and I couldn't find any reference to it 
that
> > >> the
> > >> > > > public can access.
> > >> > > > They do talk about fundas but no details are given and 
the
> > >> link
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > the data site is know a log on restricted access site.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I added tbsp to the histo list.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > http://www.tbsp.com/public/default.htm
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > AAII Stock Investor Pro lists the financials that are
> > >> available
> > >> > for
> > >> > > > 7yrs/8qtrs and has a 'money back period'.
> > >> > > > Admittedly 'money backs' are not as user frienly as free 
demo
> > >> > > > versions.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > http://www.aaii.com/stockinvestor/intro/guarantee.cfm
> > >> > > >
> > >> > 
http://www.aaii.com/stockinvestor/intro/overview/statementcomp.cfm
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Brian.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "treliff" <treliff@> 
wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Thanks to everyone sharing their insights on 
fundamental data
> > >> > > >> collection. A small contribution:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Those interested only in:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Shares out
> > >> > > >> Float
> > >> > > >> Short interest
> > >> > > >> Insider ownership
> > >> > > >> Institutional ownership
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> may consider shortsqueeze.com. At $28 they allow access 
to
> > >> their
> > >> > > >> historical data (starting only mid 2004) in XL format.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> ... and a small request:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> In joining the search for historical funda's I found 
AAII
> > > most
> > >> > > > likely
> > >> > > >> to indeed have this ability by their Data Exporting 
feature:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> " All of the fields found in Stock Investor Pro can be
> > >> exported
> > >> > in
> > >> > > > a
> > >> > > >> variety of formats, including Excel & Lotus 
spreadsheets,
> > >> ASCII
> > >> > > > tab-
> > >> > > >> and comma-delimited formats, and dBase format. "
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> But does this indeed include ALL historicals? Daily, 
weekly,
> > >> > > > monthly,
> > >> > > >> at whichever frequency each field was updated in the 
past?
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I'm very suspicious and they don't have a trial. 
Suspicious
> > >> > > > because
> > >> > > >> the habit of kicking out the previous value and simply
> > >> replacing
> > >> > > > it
> > >> > > >> with the new one seems to be the norm in fundaland (QP, 
tbsp,
> > >> > > > zacks,
> > >> > > >> reuters, stockwiz etc etc... and I'm afraid many of the 
sites
> > >> > > > Brian
> > >> > > >> has listed).
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> So can anyone confirm (Mike perhaps, who has a
> > > subscription),
> > >> > for
> > >> > > >> example re. short interest (or any other fundamental 
field):
> > >> > will
> > >> > > > an
> > >> > > >> AAII subscription truly enable me to pour all past data 
into
> > >> > > > a .csv
> > >> > > >> file? No PowerTools or SuperScreens, just good'ol plain 
raw
> > >> > data :)
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Stock XYZ short interest:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Jan '05: ...
> > >> > > >> Feb '05: ...
> > >> > > >> .
> > >> > > >> .
> > >> > > >> Jun '06: ...
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Thanks for your advice!
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> -treliff
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123" 
<brian.z123@>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Now you see it, now you don't.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Here it is!
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > http://betterinvesting.stores.yahoo.net/23303.html
> > >> > > >> > http://nt3.zacks.com/default.htm
> > >> > > >> > http://online.barrons.com/public/main
> > >> > > >> > http://sec.freeedgar.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://today.reuters.com/news/home.aspx
> > >> > > >> > http://www.aaii.com/stockinvestor/intro/
> > >> > > >> >
> > > http://www.angelfire.com/in/vestinukgrowthshares/cdrefs.html
> > >> > > >> > http://www.aspecthuntley.com.au/af/home?xtm-
> > >> > > > licensee=aspecthuntley
> > >> > > >> > http://www.capitaliq.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.cbs.curtin.edu.au/index.cfm?
objectId=1B3273A3-
> > >> 0C32-
> > >> > > > 2E2E-
> > >> > > >> > 4B5B799689FF74FC
> > >> > > >> > http://www.crsp.chicagogsb.edu/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.csidata.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.exchange-
data.com/products/fundamental_data.aspx
> > >> > > >> > http://www.fisonline.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.fordequity.com/html/pr_data_usdaily.htm
> > >> > > >> > http://www.globalfinancialdata.com/index.php3
> > >> > > >> > http://www.hemscottdata.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.investmenteasy.com/home.aspx
> > >> > > >> > http://www.it is a capital mistake to theorize in 
advance
> > >> of
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >> > facts.Sherlock Holmes
> > >> > > >> > http://www.market-eye.co.uk/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.marketdata.sungard.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.msodata.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.perfectinfo.com/product_detail.asp?
productid=4
> > >> > > >> > http://www.qaisoftware.com/index.html
> > >> > > >> > http://www.rimes.com/index.xmp
> > >> > > >> > http://www.securities.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.thomson.com/index.jsp
> > >> > > >> > http://www.trackdata.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.tradetools.com/web/scripts/default.asp
> > >> > > >> > http://www.valueline.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.wvb.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www.zacks.com/
> > >> > > >> > http://www2.standardandpoors.com/servlet/Satellite?
> > >> > > >> > pagename=sp/Page/HomePg&r=1&l=EN&b=10
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Some offer full financials, some are summarised 
(financial
> > >> or
> > >> > > > key
> > >> > > >> > statistics/ratios) and the third possiblity also 
applies.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Brian.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian.z123"
> > > <brian.z123@>
> > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Historical fundamental data providers.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Here is a list of links to sites that provide 
historical
> > >> > fdata
> > >> > > >> > that
> > >> > > >> > > may be of interest to AB users when the SQL plug-in 
is
> > >> > > > released.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Some of them were reviewed by forum members at 
the 'New
> > >> > > >> > Fundamental
> > >> > > >> > > Data' and 'Institutional Ownership' topics.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Most are USA market biased with some global 
providers
> > > and
> > >> a
> > >> > > >> couple
> > >> > > >> > > for specific markets (UK and Aus - sorry I don't 
have
> > > any
> > >> > for
> > >> > > >> > other
> > >> > > >> > > individual markets).
> > >> > > >> > > They include retail investor providers, investment 
club
> > >> > > >> providers,
> > >> > > >> > > academic providers (free to accredited people???) 
and
> > >> > > >> > institutional
> > >> > > >> > > level data (some institutional providers package 
parts of
> > >> > > > their
> > >> > > >> > > systems for individual users).
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > The links don't necessarily lead straight to the 
data;
> > >> some
> > >> > > >> > snooping
> > >> > > >> > > around is required in some cases.
> > >> > > >> > > It might also contain errors or dead leads.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > It is not a complete list by any means but includes 
most
> > >> of
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > >> > main
> > >> > > >> > > suspects.
> > >> > > >> > > Any further leads would be welcomed, including non-
> > > English
> > >> > > >> > speaking
> > >> > > >> > > sites/markets (as long as the post is in English).
> > >> > > >> > > The criteria for the list is that the database must
> > >> include
> > >> > > > some
> > >> > > >> > > industry standard fundamental data and be 
exportable in a
> > >> > > > format
> > >> > > >> > > that can be used by AB or other similar programs 
(for
> > >> those
> > >> > > > who
> > >> > > >> > own
> > >> > > >> > > more than one software package).
> > >> > > >> > > For anyone who has info readily available; 
providers home
> > >> > > >> country,
> > >> > > >> > > site URL, market, cost, instruments covered, 
database
> > >> > length,
> > >> > > > EOD
> > >> > > >> > or
> > >> > > >> > > weekly data etc, download/update method and 
frequency,
> > >> data
> > >> > > >> > fields,
> > >> > > >> > > CD available, download or intermediatry software 
needed
> > >> and
> > >> > > >> > download
> > >> > > >> > > formats available is the type of stuff that provides
> > >> useful
> > >> > > >> > guidance
> > >> > > >> > > for forum members.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > I might make a comparison table, and file it at this
> > >> site,
> > >> > at
> > >> > > > a
> > >> > > >> > > later date.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Brian.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
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users
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> > >> > > >
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