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Hi Herman, I took your email as your
opinion of the current state of AB, plain and simple.
And can agree with you about the learning
curve one has to climb with each new product.
Dave
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herman van den Bergen
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006
4:58 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re:
"AmiBroker" conferences
Dave, I am committed to AB simply because
of its many advanced afl features and speed, my investment of time in this
product is immense and without a question AmiBroker is the best product
for me.
There are only so many hours in a day
and I didn't mean to be critical in any way, especially of TJ, he is doing
a wonderful job. I just stated the facts as they apply to everybody, same for
TS users.
I just have to learn (at my age?) to be a
little more patient :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of MarketMonk777
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006
7:42 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re:
"AmiBroker" conferences
Hi Herman,
Was curious if you have investigated the
capabilities of TradeStation for AT?
Dave
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herman van den Bergen
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006
4:32 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re:
"AmiBroker" conferences
Fred, I have thought about creating some
kind of AT tutorial but we really don't have the tools yet. AB has
made a lot of progress in many traditional areas while support for
leading-edge high-speed Automated Trading hasn't evolved much (neither have
other products). Current systems and code are bloated with housekeeping
functions that detract from the real topic (AT) and would draw little interest
from an audience. Frankly, to try and document this kind of effort is a
pain to the author as well as to the reader.
To make a presentation on how to place a
few orders based on EOD signals is not what I call "AT" and might
only be of interest to fund managers. My interest is in real-time
"fast" trading for the small trader. However time is passing and just
like traditional trading became more difficult (remember how easy it was to
trade the Stochastic?) so will automated fast trading become more
difficult. Most things are driven by lagging popular demand; the
consumers wants what is "proven" (read: on the way to becoming
obsolete). Hence most commercial tools mature after there usefulness
has peaked - I guess so it will be with AT. Its just something we have to
live with.
-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006
10:01 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re:
"AmiBroker" conferences
Herman,
I think there are loads out there who would like
to have a closer
look at some of the things you're doing with AT
etc ...
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"Herman van den Bergen"
<psytek@xxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for the reports on the Houston conference; sounds
like it was
> a real succes and that a lot of interesting
topics were covered.
Perhaps
> I'll make it there one day...
>
> Meanwhile i hope that the contributors who
have not already
published key
> ideas about the work they presented will find
the time to summarize
some of
> the topics on this list.
>
> An alternative would be that someone posts a
copy of the HG, that
way all
> 4000 or so of us can make it to the next
conference ;-)
>
> best regards,
> herman
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Terry
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006
3:14 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker]
"AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
> I was also in Houston and second everything Dan says below.
Every
> presenter was excellent. Bill's use of the
Parameter box is
brilliant. I'm
> still wondering just "how" he is
able to save each set of
parameters upon
> clicking Reset All. He basically has a visual
back-tester, change a
few
> parameters and you see the results instantly
in the chart. There
were some
> nice trading ideas presented in detail. Fred
is a real genius and
IO is one
> incredibly amazing product. Tomasz is really
great guy, in spite of
the tone
> in some of his emails ;-) His presentation on
the Custom Backtester
really
> opens up nearly limitless possibilities in
back testing.you'll have
to go
> next year. All presentations were recorded in
Camtasia (slide show
with
> audio) and you'll be able to buy those from
FT Monitor for well
less than
> the cost of attending, but being there is
person is the best.
>
> --
>
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Dan Clark
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006
10:14
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker]
"AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
>
> Hi. I just got back
from the AB conference last night. Great
> conference! More about that in a
minute.
>
>
>
> Regarding the Tomasz' PowerPoint
presentations. To save the
effort
> converting them to HTML or flash, users can
simply use the
PowerPoint
> viewer:
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=428d5727-
43ab-4f2
> 4-90b7-a94784af71a4&displaylang=en
>
>
>
> It's free and allows anyone to
view PowerPoint '97 and later
> presentations.
>
>
>
> Regarding the conference.
>
>
>
> It was a very interesting
experience. It's fascinating how your
> perspective changes when you meet people in
person. Joe Landry,
Duke Jones,
> Richard Borroff and especially Tomasz are
very different from the
way I
> imagined them. Even nicer in
person!
>
>
>
> Regarding Tomasz, he's obviously
one of the brightest people
around.
> What is NOT obvious until you meet him in
person is that he's one
of the
> nicest, most self-effacing guys you will
encounter. It was a
pleasure to
> listen to him speak and to talk with him in
person! He got a
standing
> ovation after his presentation!
>
>
>
> Greg Cook did a great job
covering an overall system for trading
stocks.
> His analytical approach and blending of
traditional AB concepts
other web
> resources aligns nicely with my way of
thinking. It's a great
structure
> for me.
>
>
>
> Jimmy Hixson talked about secular
and cyclical markets. This
was a way
> of viewing the long and shorter term cycles
in the markets
historically.
> Great context for looking at the markets.
>
>
>
> Fred Tonetti's discussion covered
using IO for optimization.
Fred's
> presentation was excellent, but very advanced
for me. I figure
with about
> 2-3 years of hard work, I'll get to level
where I can understand
it. Fred
> is one serious rocket scientist! ;-)
>
>
>
> Besides meeting people with whom
I've "conversed" online, I'd say
that
> most interesting thing I learned was how
different people view
AmiBroker. A
> goodly number of people came from the
FastTrack world. They spoke
a
> language and shared concepts that were
entirely new to me. This
was true in
> general, but it really came home with Bill
Barnard's presentation.
>
>
>
> Bill comes from the FastTrack
world and uses AmiBroker to
generate trading
> signals - good in general and especially good
for FastTrack
users. He
> demonstrated and discussed his AFL
code. When he started, I was
only
> mildly interested because many of the
concepts he discussed were
FastTrack
> concepts. However, as he
moved forward, I realized that I was
looking at
> one amazing piece of work!
>
>
>
> Bill's presentation and code were
incredible! IMO, this is the
most
> advanced AFL code that I've ever seen or
heard discussed. He uses
AB and
> AFL in ways that are ground-breaking.
As an example, Bill uses
the "Reset
> all" button in the Properties window in
a way that (AFAIK) no one
else has
> every thought of. I don't fully
understand what he is doing
> (understatement alert), but it appears that
he is saving sets of
chart
> properties to text files and then reading
them back in to change
the whole
> context of charts. This changes
the whole context of a chart.
>
>
>
> Using Bill's methods, I think it
is possible to implement the
concept of
> "drill down" in
AmiBroker. For example, you could display a line
chart of
> the top 10 "Hot"
Industries. Then you could select an industry
and click
> "Refresh all" and repopulate a
Properties "ParamList" with the
component
> symbols from that Industry. Then
click a ParamToggle and
click "Refresh
> all" to take you back to the original
"Industries" chart. I'm
going to try
> this and let you know how it
works. I can NOT overstate how
incredible I
> found Bill's work to be.
Absolutely fantastic!
>
>
>
> PICTURES - I took pictures at the
reception. I'll edit them over
the new
> few days and post a link where you can
view/download them. (Hint -
Did you
> know that Tomasz' favorite hat comes from Texas?!?)
Also, I you
took
> pics, want to share them, but don't have a
way, let me know and
I'll upload
> and share them with my pics.
>
>
>
> To Richard Borroff for organizing
the conference, and to Tomasz
and all
> the presenters, please accept my sincere
appreciation for a great
> conference!
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Dan.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
> --
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Tomasz
Janeczko
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006
4:08 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker]
"AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
>
> Herman,
>
>
>
> I can not speak for other
authors, but my own presentations are
now
> available for free from AmiBroker site
>
> so everyone can just download it.
>
> http://www.amibroker.com/docs/Houston1.ppt
>
> http://www.amibroker.com/docs/Houston2.ppt
>
>
>
> Probably I will convert them to
HTML or Flash so people without
PowerPoint
>
> are also able to see them.
>
>
>
> As for recorded audio materials
and remaining presentations
Richard Boroff
> from FTMonitor, will be preparing CD set with
>
> everything. It will take 6 or
more weeks to prepare those CDs.
>
>
>
> As far as Bill Bardard's code is
considered - I asked him and he
said that
> he is willing to share his code with other
AmiBroker users.
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz
Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
>
> From: Herman van den
Bergen
>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Monday,
February 27, 2006 12:17 PM
>
> Subject: [amibroker]
"AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
>
> Conferences are nice
but benefit the few.
>
>
>
> imo, Unless
proceedings are published the AmiBroker user
community will
> become divided and cliquish.
>
>
>
> Are there any plans
to publish the Houston
presentations?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> herman
>
>
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Thomas Z.
> Sent:
Monday, February 27, 2006 2:28 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:
RE: [amibroker] News from Houston
>
> Hello
Duke,
>
>
>
> >Bill
Barnard blew us away with what you can do within the
parameter
> box...
> >even
Tomasz jaw dropped when he saw what was packed into the
dialog
> box.
>
>
>
> Do you
know more about that or examples ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> - - - - -
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>
> Thomas
>
>
www.tradingbasis.com
>
>
support@xxx
>
> - - - - -
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Duke Jones, CMT
> Sent:
Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:42 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:
[amibroker] News from Houston
>
>
>
> Just a
quick update from Houston
>
>
>
> News from
Tomasz ...Just a few of the potential features
coming down
> the
>
> road:
>
>
>
> Ways to
define Minimum Hold Bars and type of penalty/fee
expressed in
> a
>
> percent
for Rotational Trading.
>
> Multiple
accounts in updated portfolio manager.
>
> Multi
Threading in Optimizer
>
> 64Bit
version - already available and on the website (note:
currently
>
> only IB
plug in is 64bit ready)
>
> New Easy
Alerts Features
>
> User
definable filtering in T&S window
>
> many
more....
>
>
>
>
Presentations:
>
> Bill
Barrack's & Bruce Robinson - presentation was excellent
but ideas
>
> from
conversations afterward worth the price of admission
alone.
>
> Bill
Barnard blew us away with what you can do within the
parameter
>
> box...
even Tomasz jaw dropped when he saw what was packed
into the
>
> dialog
box.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Duke
Jones, CMT
>
>
>
>
>
>
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