RE: [amibroker] Re: "AmiBroker" conferences, AmiBroker Email List Archive

Hi Herman,

Was curious if you have investigated the capabilities of TradeStation for AT?

Dave

From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herman van den Bergen
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 4:32 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: "AmiBroker" conferences

Fred, I have thought about creating some kind of AT tutorial but we really don't have the tools yet. AB has made a lot of progress in many traditional areas while support for leading-edge high-speed Automated Trading hasn't evolved much (neither have other products). Current systems and code are bloated with housekeeping functions that detract from the real topic (AT) and would draw little interest from an audience. Frankly, to try and document this kind of effort is a pain to the author as well as to the reader.

To make a presentation on how to place a few orders based on EOD signals is not what I call "AT" and might only be of interest to fund managers. My interest is in real-time "fast" trading for the small trader. However time is passing and just like traditional trading became more difficult (remember how easy it was to trade the Stochastic?) so will automated fast trading become more difficult. Most things are driven by lagging popular demand; the consumers wants what is "proven" (read: on the way to becoming obsolete). Hence most commercial tools mature after there usefulness has peaked - I guess so it will be with AT. Its just something we have to live with.

Best regards,

herman.

-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:01 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re: "AmiBroker" conferences

Herman,

I think there are loads out there who would like to have a closer
look at some of the things you're doing with AT etc ...

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Herman van den Bergen"
<psytek@xxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for the reports on the Houston conference; sounds
like it was
> a real succes and that a lot of interesting topics were covered.
Perhaps
> I'll make it there one day...
>
> Meanwhile i hope that the contributors who have not already
published key
> ideas about the work they presented will find the time to summarize
some of
> the topics on this list.
>
> An alternative would be that someone posts a copy of the HG, that
way all
> 4000 or so of us can make it to the next conference ;-)
>
> best regards,
> herman
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Terry
>   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 3:14 PM
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: RE: [amibroker] "AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
>   I was also in Houston and second everything Dan says below. Every
> presenter was excellent. Bill's use of the Parameter box is
brilliant. I'm
> still wondering just "how" he is able to save each set of
parameters upon
> clicking Reset All. He basically has a visual back-tester, change a
few
> parameters and you see the results instantly in the chart. There
were some
> nice trading ideas presented in detail. Fred is a real genius and
IO is one
> incredibly amazing product. Tomasz is really great guy, in spite of
the tone
> in some of his emails ;-) His presentation on the Custom Backtester
really
> opens up nearly limitless possibilities in back testing.you'll have
to go
> next year. All presentations were recorded in Camtasia (slide show
with
> audio) and you'll be able to buy those from FT Monitor for well
less than
> the cost of attending, but being there is person is the best.
>
>   --
>
>   Terry
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Dan Clark
>   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:14
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: RE: [amibroker] "AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
>
>   Hi.   I just got back from the AB conference last night. Great
> conference!   More about that in a minute.
>
>
>
>   Regarding the Tomasz' PowerPoint presentations.   To save the
effort
> converting them to HTML or flash, users can simply use the
PowerPoint
> viewer:
>
>
>
>   http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=428d5727-
43ab-4f2
> 4-90b7-a94784af71a4&displaylang=en
>
>
>
>   It's free and allows anyone to view PowerPoint '97 and later
> presentations.
>
>
>
>   Regarding the conference.
>
>
>
>   It was a very interesting experience. It's fascinating how your
> perspective changes when you meet people in person. Joe Landry,
Duke Jones,
> Richard Borroff and especially Tomasz are very different from the
way I
> imagined them.   Even nicer in person!
>
>
>
>   Regarding Tomasz, he's obviously one of the brightest people
around.
> What is NOT obvious until you meet him in person is that he's one
of the
> nicest, most self-effacing guys you will encounter.    It was a
pleasure to
> listen to him speak and to talk with him in person!   He got a
standing
> ovation after his presentation!
>
>
>
>   Greg Cook did a great job covering an overall system for trading
stocks.
> His analytical approach and blending of traditional AB concepts
other web
> resources aligns nicely with my way of thinking.   It's a great
structure
> for me.
>
>
>
>   Jimmy Hixson talked about secular and cyclical markets.    This
was a way
> of viewing the long and shorter term cycles in the markets
historically.
> Great context for looking at the markets.
>
>
>
>   Fred Tonetti's discussion covered using IO for optimization.
Fred's
> presentation was excellent, but very advanced for me.   I figure
with about
> 2-3 years of hard work, I'll get to level where I can understand
it.   Fred
> is one serious rocket scientist! ;-)
>
>
>
>   Besides meeting people with whom I've "conversed" online, I'd say
that
> most interesting thing I learned was how different people view
AmiBroker. A
> goodly number of people came from the FastTrack world.   They spoke
a
> language and shared concepts that were entirely new to me. This
was true in
> general, but it really came home with Bill Barnard's presentation.
>
>
>
>   Bill comes from the FastTrack world and uses AmiBroker to
generate trading
> signals - good in general and especially good for FastTrack
users.   He
> demonstrated and discussed his AFL code.   When he started, I was
only
> mildly interested because many of the concepts he discussed were
FastTrack
> concepts.    However, as he moved forward, I realized that I was
looking at
> one amazing piece of work!
>
>
>
>   Bill's presentation and code were incredible!   IMO, this is the
most
> advanced AFL code that I've ever seen or heard discussed.   He uses
AB and
> AFL in ways that are ground-breaking. As an example, Bill uses
the "Reset
> all" button in the Properties window in a way that (AFAIK) no one
else has
> every thought of.   I don't fully understand what he is doing
> (understatement alert), but it appears that he is saving sets of
chart
> properties to text files and then reading them back in to change
the whole
> context of charts.   This changes the whole context of a chart.
>
>
>
>   Using Bill's methods, I think it is possible to implement the
concept of
> "drill down" in AmiBroker.   For example, you could display a line
chart of
> the top 10 "Hot" Industries.   Then you could select an industry
and click
> "Refresh all" and repopulate a Properties "ParamList" with the
component
> symbols from that Industry.   Then click a ParamToggle and
click "Refresh
> all" to take you back to the original "Industries" chart.   I'm
going to try
> this and let you know how it works.   I can NOT overstate how
incredible I
> found Bill's work to be.   Absolutely fantastic!
>
>
>
>   PICTURES - I took pictures at the reception. I'll edit them over
the new
> few days and post a link where you can view/download them.   (Hint -
Did you
> know that Tomasz' favorite hat comes from Texas?!?)    Also, I you
took
> pics, want to share them, but don't have a way, let me know and
I'll upload
> and share them with my pics.
>
>
>
>   To Richard Borroff for organizing the conference, and to Tomasz
and all
> the presenters, please accept my sincere appreciation for a great
> conference!
>
>
>
>   Best regards,
>
>
>
>   Dan.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> --
>
>   From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Tomasz Janeczko
>   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:08 AM
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] "AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
>
>   Herman,
>
>
>
>   I can not speak for other authors, but my own presentations are
now
> available for free from AmiBroker site
>
>   so everyone can just download it.
>
>   http://www.amibroker.com/docs/Houston1.ppt
>
>   http://www.amibroker.com/docs/Houston2.ppt
>
>
>
>   Probably I will convert them to HTML or Flash so people without
PowerPoint
>
>   are also able to see them.
>
>
>
>   As for recorded audio materials and remaining presentations
Richard Boroff
> from FTMonitor, will be preparing CD set with
>
>   everything. It will take 6 or more weeks to prepare those CDs.
>
>
>
>   As far as Bill Bardard's code is considered - I asked him and he
said that
> he is willing to share his code with other AmiBroker users.
>
>
>
>
>   Best regards,
>   Tomasz Janeczko
>   amibroker.com
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     From: Herman van den Bergen
>
>     To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>     Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:17 PM
>
>     Subject: [amibroker] "AmiBroker" conferences
>
>
>
>     Conferences are nice but benefit the few.
>
>
>
>     imo, Unless proceedings are published the AmiBroker user
community will
> become divided and cliquish.
>
>
>
>     Are there any plans to publish the Houston presentations?
>
>
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     herman
>
>
>
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Thomas Z.
>       Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:28 AM
>       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Subject: RE: [amibroker] News from Houston
>
>       Hello Duke,
>
>
>
>       >Bill Barnard blew us away with what you can do within the
parameter
> box...
>       >even Tomasz jaw dropped when he saw what was packed into the
dialog
> box.
>
>
>
>       Do you know more about that or examples ?
>
>
>
>
>
>       Regards
>
>
>
>       - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>       Thomas
>
>       www.tradingbasis.com
>
>       support@xxx
>
>       - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Duke Jones, CMT
>       Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:42 PM
>       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Subject: [amibroker] News from Houston
>
>
>
>       Just a quick update from Houston
>
>
>
>       News from Tomasz ...Just a few of the potential features
coming down
> the
>
>       road:
>
>
>
>       Ways to define Minimum Hold Bars and type of penalty/fee
expressed in
> a
>
>       percent for Rotational Trading.
>
>       Multiple accounts in updated portfolio manager.
>
>       Multi Threading in Optimizer
>
>       64Bit version - already available and on the website (note:
currently
>
>       only IB plug in is 64bit ready)
>
>       New Easy Alerts Features
>
>       User definable filtering in T&S window
>
>       many more....
>
>
>
>       Presentations:
>
>       Bill Barrack's & Bruce Robinson - presentation was excellent
but ideas
>
>       from conversations afterward worth the price of admission
alone.
>
>       Bill Barnard blew us away with what you can do within the
parameter
>
>       box... even Tomasz jaw dropped when he saw what was packed
into the
>
>       dialog box.
>
>
>
>       Regards,
>
>
>
>       Duke Jones, CMT
>
>
>
>
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