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[amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes in saved Layouts. Help!



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I assume you used Win Explorer for that.....

However then all already applied (inserted) custom charts/indicators 
are still linked to files in the AFL folder. I mean: did you then do 
a Grand Operation of manually replacing those with the (identical) 
ones in the Formulas folder? Sort of re-linking them?  

Still puzzled that this issue is not discussed in release notes, 
unless I overlooked it, which I probably did... happy though that
I'm not the only one with the AFL folder!  Thanks.  

-treliff

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Prashanth" <prash454@xxxx> wrote:
> I used Copy and Paste to move the Old Afl file to the Formulas 
folder. While, the orginal links dont get corrupted, formulas are 
visible on the Tree so that the next time, one wishes to modify / add 
it to a pane, one can do it from here. Might be a little clumsy 
(since there will be 2 editions of the files, but works without any 
probs).
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Parshanth
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: treliff 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:00 AM
>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes 
in saved Layouts. Help!
> 
> 
>   > They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
>   > This is the place where they are created by default.
>   > All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
>   > in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.
> 
>   Tomasz, I never MOVED any afl files in Windows Explorer (only 
>   deleted). I'm quite sure these files were in the AFL folder from 
>   before the ChartTree/Drag&Drop feature was introduced and they 
simply 
>   stayed there.
> 
>   > The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in 
>   preferences.
> 
>   Yes I've seen that, but in order to keep the "shipped" formulas 
it 
>   would seem more appropriate to have a one-time operation of 
moving 
>   everything from AFL to Formulas folder. This however will 
probably 
>   lead to "File cannot be found" messages... ?
> 
>   It's kind of strange, am I the only one with indicators in 
the "old" 
>   AFL folder? In any case, what would you advise ?
> 
>   -treliff
> 
>   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
<amibroker@xxxx> 
>   wrote:
>   > They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
>   > This is the place where they are created by default.
>   > 
>   > All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
>   > in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.
>   > 
>   > The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in 
>   preferences.
>   > 
>   > Best regards,
>   > Tomasz Janeczko
>   > amibroker.com
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>   > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:10 AM
>   > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes 
in 
>   saved Layouts. Help!
>   > 
>   > 
>   > > hmmm.. this is all so mouse-based, I'm a keyboarder :-)
>   > > 
>   > >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT 
MOUSE 
>   > > BUTTON.
>   > > 
>   > > DRAG it... from where?
>   > > All my custom indicators are in the AFL folder. I don't see 
how I 
>   can 
>   > > move them to the Formulas folder so they will show up in the 
>   chart 
>   > > tree.
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>   <amibroker@xxxx> 
>   > > wrote:
>   > >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?  
I 
>   use 
>   > > the 
>   > >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files 
>   from 
>   > >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
>   > >> 
>   > >> I wrote you already.
>   > >> Use Delete from Chart tree
>   > >> http://www.amibroker.com/guide/m_formulacontext.html
>   > >> 
>   > >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files, 
like 
>   from 
>   > > the 
>   > >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to 
the 
>   > >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use 
Drag&Drop
>   > >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
>   > >> 
>   > >> NO!
>   > >> Do NOT use windows explorer for manipulating formula files.
>   > >> 
>   > >> ALWAYS Use CHART TREE - this is specialized "explorer" where
>   > >> all formula operations should be performed, including:
>   > >> - creation
>   > >> - deletion
>   > >> - moving
>   > >> - renaming
>   > >> 
>   > >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT 
MOUSE 
>   > > BUTTON.
>   > >> 
>   > >> 
>   > >> Best regards,
>   > >> Tomasz Janeczko
>   > >> amibroker.com
>   > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>   > >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   > >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:38 PM
>   > >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart 
panes 
>   in 
>   > > saved Layouts. Help!
>   > >> 
>   > >> 
>   > >> > That worked! All set now. A related question if I may: 
>   > >> > 
>   > >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?  
I 
>   use 
>   > > the 
>   > >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files 
>   from 
>   > >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
>   > >> > 
>   > >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files, 
like 
>   from 
>   > > the 
>   > >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to 
the 
>   > >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use 
Drag&Drop
>   > >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
>   > >> > 
>   > >> > 
>   > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>   > > <amibroker@xxxx> 
>   > >> > wrote:
>   > >> >> Hello,
>   > >> >> 
>   > >> >> Please tell me who instructed you to remove all those 
layout 
>   > > files?
>   > >> >> Now the only resolution is to run setup program ("upgrade 
>   > > version")
>   > >> >> from
>   > >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker470up.exe
>   > >> >> (and eventually apply latest beta if you are using one)
>   > >> >> 
>   > >> >> Setup will produce formula files for "default charts".
>   > >> >> 
>   > >> >> If this won't help you would need to delete (or better 
rename)
>   > >> >> broker.newcharts file and run setup again.
>   > >> >> 
>   > >> >> Best regards,
>   > >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
>   > >> >> amibroker.com
>   > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>   > >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   > >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:24 PM
>   > >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart 
>   panes 
>   > > in 
>   > >> > saved Layouts. Help!
>   > >> >> 
>   > >> >> 
>   > >> >> > OK Tomasz, I screwed up big time. Learned my lesson. 
But 
>   > >> > meanwhile 
>   > >> >> > I'm screwed. This is the situation now:
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > I checked out any black panes referring to files 
that "do 
>   not
>   > >> >> > exist", traced their .afl file names and either moved 
these 
>   > > files 
>   > >> >> > back to their original locations or created dummy files 
>   under 
>   > > the 
>   > >> >> > same name. 
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > ** I then removed ALL layout files (NOT folders) 
including 
>   > >> > the .awl 
>   > >> >> > files from the Layout subfolder in the database folder 
** 
>   (did 
>   > >> > back'm 
>   > >> >> > up)
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > Re-opened AB to find the default Layout (MACD etc.) but 
a 
>   > >> > hopeless 
>   > >> >> > situation: 
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > Any, ANY chart pane applied, including Basic charts 
like 
>   > > Price, 
>   > >> > after 
>   > >> >> > closing and re-opening AB, turn up as black panes with 
>   (when 
>   > >> >> > Ctrl+E`d) this message (literally) :
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > File does not exist:
>   > >> >> > "
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > No more reference to any specific file but just one "-
>   sign.  
>   > >> >> > Desperately out of options.
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > TJ, please hit me hard... and then help me out.
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > -treliff
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > 
>   > >> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>   > >> > <amibroker@xxxx> 
>   > >> >> > wrote:
>   > >> >> >> Hello,
>   > >> >> >> 
>   > >> >> >> You must NOT delete afl files manually from Windows 
>   Explorer.
>   > >> >> >> Please use CHART TREE right click to delete any afl 
files.
>   > >> >> >> Doing so you are giving AmiBroker a chance to check if 
>   file 
>   > > is 
>   > >> > in 
>   > >> >> > use.
>   > >> >> >> If you use Explorer instead - it just deletes the file 
and 
>   > > does 
>   > >> > not 
>   > >> >> > care
>   > >> >> >> about it.
>   > >> >> >> 
>   > >> >> >> And for the panes: they are NOT miswired. Remember 
that if
>   > >> >> >> you use "Insert LINKED" - then more than one pane 
SHARES 
>   the 
>   > > same
>   > >> >> >> file. So please use ordinary INSERT as this way 
separate 
>   > > copies
>   > >> >> >> are created and they are independent.
>   > >> >> >> 
>   > >> >> >> As for panes that are now black - simply close them.
>   > >> >> >> Then re-insert indicators that were there (if you need 
>   them).
>   > >> >> >> 
>   > >> >> >> Best regards,
>   > >> >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
>   > >> >> >> amibroker.com
>   > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > >> >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>   > >> >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   > >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:17 PM
>   > >> >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Ongoing problem with black chart 
>   panes 
>   > > in 
>   > >> >> > saved Layouts. Help!
>   > >> >> >> 
>   > >> >> >> 
>   > >> >> >> > This problem probably started when I manually 
deleted 
>   > > an .afl 
>   > >> >> > file 
>   > >> >> >> > that was part of the chart Layout. However it should 
>   long 
>   > > have 
>   > >> >> > been 
>   > >> >> >> > solved since I closed the black pane (one that 
>   > > mentions "File
>   > >> >> >> > does not exist" when right clicking) and replaced it 
>   with 
>   > > an 
>   > >> >> >> > existing .afl file (pane).
>   > >> >> >> > 
>   > >> >> >> > I saved it as a new Local Layout, saved the 
Database, 
>   > > closed 
>   > >> > and 
>   > >> >> > re-
>   > >> >> >> > opened etc. etc. The problem only increases: since I 
>   added 
>   > > two 
>   > >> >> > more 
>   > >> >> >> > (existing file) chart panes, when I open the 
Database I 
>   > > have 3 
>   > >> >> > (!) 
>   > >> >> >> > black panes instead of one. The whole thing seems 
>   > > completely 
>   > >> >> >> > miswired now.  
>   > >> >> >> > 
>   > >> >> >> > I used notepad to open the default.awl file 
in "Layouts" 
>   > >> >> > subfolder 
>   > >> >> >> > inside database folder but have no clue if and how 
to 
>   work 
>   > > in 
>   > >> >> > this. 
>   > >> >> >> > 
>   > >> >> >> > Is there any way to force this problem out without 
>   creating 
>   > > a 
>   > >> > new 
>   > >> >> >> > database from scratch? Thanks!
>   > >> >> >> > 
>   > >> >> >> > -treliff
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