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Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes in saved Layouts. Help!
>I assume you used Win Explorer for that.....
>
> However then all already applied (inserted) custom charts/indicators
> are still linked to files in the AFL folder. I mean: did you then do
> a Grand Operation of manually replacing those with the (identical)
> ones in the Formulas folder? Sort of re-linking them?
>
> Still puzzled that this issue is not discussed in release notes,
> unless I overlooked it, which I probably did... happy though that
> I'm not the only one with the AFL folder! Thanks.
>
> -treliff
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Prashanth" <prash454@xxxx> wrote:
>> I used Copy and Paste to move the Old Afl file to the Formulas
> folder. While, the orginal links dont get corrupted, formulas are
> visible on the Tree so that the next time, one wishes to modify / add
> it to a pane, one can do it from here. Might be a little clumsy
> (since there will be 2 editions of the files, but works without any
> probs).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Parshanth
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: treliff
>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:00 AM
>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes
> in saved Layouts. Help!
>>
>>
>> > They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
>> > This is the place where they are created by default.
>> > All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
>> > in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.
>>
>> Tomasz, I never MOVED any afl files in Windows Explorer (only
>> deleted). I'm quite sure these files were in the AFL folder from
>> before the ChartTree/Drag&Drop feature was introduced and they
> simply
>> stayed there.
>>
>> > The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in
>> preferences.
>>
>> Yes I've seen that, but in order to keep the "shipped" formulas
> it
>> would seem more appropriate to have a one-time operation of
> moving
>> everything from AFL to Formulas folder. This however will
> probably
>> lead to "File cannot be found" messages... ?
>>
>> It's kind of strange, am I the only one with indicators in
> the "old"
>> AFL folder? In any case, what would you advise ?
>>
>> -treliff
>>
>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> <amibroker@xxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
>> > This is the place where they are created by default.
>> >
>> > All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
>> > in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.
>> >
>> > The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in
>> preferences.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Tomasz Janeczko
>> > amibroker.com
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:10 AM
>> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes
> in
>> saved Layouts. Help!
>> >
>> >
>> > > hmmm.. this is all so mouse-based, I'm a keyboarder :-)
>> > >
>> > >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT
> MOUSE
>> > > BUTTON.
>> > >
>> > > DRAG it... from where?
>> > > All my custom indicators are in the AFL folder. I don't see
> how I
>> can
>> > > move them to the Formulas folder so they will show up in the
>> chart
>> > > tree.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
>> <amibroker@xxxx>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?
> I
>> use
>> > > the
>> > >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files
>> from
>> > >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
>> > >>
>> > >> I wrote you already.
>> > >> Use Delete from Chart tree
>> > >> http://www.amibroker.com/guide/m_formulacontext.html
>> > >>
>> > >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files,
> like
>> from
>> > > the
>> > >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to
> the
>> > >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use
> Drag&Drop
>> > >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
>> > >>
>> > >> NO!
>> > >> Do NOT use windows explorer for manipulating formula files.
>> > >>
>> > >> ALWAYS Use CHART TREE - this is specialized "explorer" where
>> > >> all formula operations should be performed, including:
>> > >> - creation
>> > >> - deletion
>> > >> - moving
>> > >> - renaming
>> > >>
>> > >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT
> MOUSE
>> > > BUTTON.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards,
>> > >> Tomasz Janeczko
>> > >> amibroker.com
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>> > >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:38 PM
>> > >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart
> panes
>> in
>> > > saved Layouts. Help!
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > That worked! All set now. A related question if I may:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?
> I
>> use
>> > > the
>> > >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files
>> from
>> > >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files,
> like
>> from
>> > > the
>> > >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to
> the
>> > >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use
> Drag&Drop
>> > >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
>> > > <amibroker@xxxx>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >> Hello,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Please tell me who instructed you to remove all those
> layout
>> > > files?
>> > >> >> Now the only resolution is to run setup program ("upgrade
>> > > version")
>> > >> >> from
>> > >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker470up.exe
>> > >> >> (and eventually apply latest beta if you are using one)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Setup will produce formula files for "default charts".
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> If this won't help you would need to delete (or better
> rename)
>> > >> >> broker.newcharts file and run setup again.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Best regards,
>> > >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
>> > >> >> amibroker.com
>> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>> > >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:24 PM
>> > >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart
>> panes
>> > > in
>> > >> > saved Layouts. Help!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > OK Tomasz, I screwed up big time. Learned my lesson.
> But
>> > >> > meanwhile
>> > >> >> > I'm screwed. This is the situation now:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I checked out any black panes referring to files
> that "do
>> not
>> > >> >> > exist", traced their .afl file names and either moved
> these
>> > > files
>> > >> >> > back to their original locations or created dummy files
>> under
>> > > the
>> > >> >> > same name.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > ** I then removed ALL layout files (NOT folders)
> including
>> > >> > the .awl
>> > >> >> > files from the Layout subfolder in the database folder
> **
>> (did
>> > >> > back'm
>> > >> >> > up)
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Re-opened AB to find the default Layout (MACD etc.) but
> a
>> > >> > hopeless
>> > >> >> > situation:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Any, ANY chart pane applied, including Basic charts
> like
>> > > Price,
>> > >> > after
>> > >> >> > closing and re-opening AB, turn up as black panes with
>> (when
>> > >> >> > Ctrl+E`d) this message (literally) :
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > File does not exist:
>> > >> >> > "
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > No more reference to any specific file but just one "-
>> sign.
>> > >> >> > Desperately out of options.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > TJ, please hit me hard... and then help me out.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > -treliff
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
>> > >> > <amibroker@xxxx>
>> > >> >> > wrote:
>> > >> >> >> Hello,
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> You must NOT delete afl files manually from Windows
>> Explorer.
>> > >> >> >> Please use CHART TREE right click to delete any afl
> files.
>> > >> >> >> Doing so you are giving AmiBroker a chance to check if
>> file
>> > > is
>> > >> > in
>> > >> >> > use.
>> > >> >> >> If you use Explorer instead - it just deletes the file
> and
>> > > does
>> > >> > not
>> > >> >> > care
>> > >> >> >> about it.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> And for the panes: they are NOT miswired. Remember
> that if
>> > >> >> >> you use "Insert LINKED" - then more than one pane
> SHARES
>> the
>> > > same
>> > >> >> >> file. So please use ordinary INSERT as this way
> separate
>> > > copies
>> > >> >> >> are created and they are independent.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> As for panes that are now black - simply close them.
>> > >> >> >> Then re-insert indicators that were there (if you need
>> them).
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Best regards,
>> > >> >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
>> > >> >> >> amibroker.com
>> > >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>> > >> >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:17 PM
>> > >> >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Ongoing problem with black chart
>> panes
>> > > in
>> > >> >> > saved Layouts. Help!
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> > This problem probably started when I manually
> deleted
>> > > an .afl
>> > >> >> > file
>> > >> >> >> > that was part of the chart Layout. However it should
>> long
>> > > have
>> > >> >> > been
>> > >> >> >> > solved since I closed the black pane (one that
>> > > mentions "File
>> > >> >> >> > does not exist" when right clicking) and replaced it
>> with
>> > > an
>> > >> >> >> > existing .afl file (pane).
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > I saved it as a new Local Layout, saved the
> Database,
>> > > closed
>> > >> > and
>> > >> >> > re-
>> > >> >> >> > opened etc. etc. The problem only increases: since I
>> added
>> > > two
>> > >> >> > more
>> > >> >> >> > (existing file) chart panes, when I open the
> Database I
>> > > have 3
>> > >> >> > (!)
>> > >> >> >> > black panes instead of one. The whole thing seems
>> > > completely
>> > >> >> >> > miswired now.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > I used notepad to open the default.awl file
> in "Layouts"
>> > >> >> > subfolder
>> > >> >> >> > inside database folder but have no clue if and how
> to
>> work
>> > > in
>> > >> >> > this.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Is there any way to force this problem out without
>> creating
>> > > a
>> > >> > new
>> > >> >> >> > database from scratch? Thanks!
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > -treliff
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