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Re: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes in saved Layouts. Help!


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  • Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes in saved Layouts. Help!
  • From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:59:04 +0200

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Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes in saved Layouts. Help!


>I assume you used Win Explorer for that.....
> 
> However then all already applied (inserted) custom charts/indicators 
> are still linked to files in the AFL folder. I mean: did you then do 
> a Grand Operation of manually replacing those with the (identical) 
> ones in the Formulas folder? Sort of re-linking them?  
> 
> Still puzzled that this issue is not discussed in release notes, 
> unless I overlooked it, which I probably did... happy though that
> I'm not the only one with the AFL folder!  Thanks.  
> 
> -treliff
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Prashanth" <prash454@xxxx> wrote:
>> I used Copy and Paste to move the Old Afl file to the Formulas 
> folder. While, the orginal links dont get corrupted, formulas are 
> visible on the Tree so that the next time, one wishes to modify / add 
> it to a pane, one can do it from here. Might be a little clumsy 
> (since there will be 2 editions of the files, but works without any 
> probs).
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Parshanth
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: treliff 
>>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>   Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:00 AM
>>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes 
> in saved Layouts. Help!
>> 
>> 
>>   > They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
>>   > This is the place where they are created by default.
>>   > All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
>>   > in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.
>> 
>>   Tomasz, I never MOVED any afl files in Windows Explorer (only 
>>   deleted). I'm quite sure these files were in the AFL folder from 
>>   before the ChartTree/Drag&Drop feature was introduced and they 
> simply 
>>   stayed there.
>> 
>>   > The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in 
>>   preferences.
>> 
>>   Yes I've seen that, but in order to keep the "shipped" formulas 
> it 
>>   would seem more appropriate to have a one-time operation of 
> moving 
>>   everything from AFL to Formulas folder. This however will 
> probably 
>>   lead to "File cannot be found" messages... ?
>> 
>>   It's kind of strange, am I the only one with indicators in 
> the "old" 
>>   AFL folder? In any case, what would you advise ?
>> 
>>   -treliff
>> 
>>   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
> <amibroker@xxxx> 
>>   wrote:
>>   > They should be in Formulas\Custom folder
>>   > This is the place where they are created by default.
>>   > 
>>   > All formulas (custom and shipped with AmiBroker) should be
>>   > in "formulas" subfolder. Then they are visible under tree.
>>   > 
>>   > The formula root directory can be changed - it is definable in 
>>   preferences.
>>   > 
>>   > Best regards,
>>   > Tomasz Janeczko
>>   > amibroker.com
>>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   > From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>>   > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>   > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:10 AM
>>   > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart panes 
> in 
>>   saved Layouts. Help!
>>   > 
>>   > 
>>   > > hmmm.. this is all so mouse-based, I'm a keyboarder :-)
>>   > > 
>>   > >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT 
> MOUSE 
>>   > > BUTTON.
>>   > > 
>>   > > DRAG it... from where?
>>   > > All my custom indicators are in the AFL folder. I don't see 
> how I 
>>   can 
>>   > > move them to the Formulas folder so they will show up in the 
>>   chart 
>>   > > tree.
>>   > > 
>>   > > 
>>   > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>>   <amibroker@xxxx> 
>>   > > wrote:
>>   > >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?  
> I 
>>   use 
>>   > > the 
>>   > >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files 
>>   from 
>>   > >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> I wrote you already.
>>   > >> Use Delete from Chart tree
>>   > >> http://www.amibroker.com/guide/m_formulacontext.html
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files, 
> like 
>>   from 
>>   > > the 
>>   > >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to 
> the 
>>   > >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use 
> Drag&Drop
>>   > >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> NO!
>>   > >> Do NOT use windows explorer for manipulating formula files.
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> ALWAYS Use CHART TREE - this is specialized "explorer" where
>>   > >> all formula operations should be performed, including:
>>   > >> - creation
>>   > >> - deletion
>>   > >> - moving
>>   > >> - renaming
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> To move the file simply DRAG it in CHART TREE with RIGHT 
> MOUSE 
>>   > > BUTTON.
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> Best regards,
>>   > >> Tomasz Janeczko
>>   > >> amibroker.com
>>   > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   > >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>>   > >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>   > >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:38 PM
>>   > >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart 
> panes 
>>   in 
>>   > > saved Layouts. Help!
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> 
>>   > >> > That worked! All set now. A related question if I may: 
>>   > >> > 
>>   > >> > How do I safely delete an indicator from the AFL folder?  
> I 
>>   use 
>>   > > the 
>>   > >> > Formula Editor File Open window to Delete-button afl files 
>>   from 
>>   > >> > there, but this is probably where I messed up.
>>   > >> > 
>>   > >> > Also, can I use Win Explorer to safely move afl files, 
> like 
>>   from 
>>   > > the 
>>   > >> > AFL folder to the Formulas folder? Is moving everything to 
> the 
>>   > >> > Formulas folder in general a good idea? (I don't use 
> Drag&Drop
>>   > >> > nor the Chart Tree so I don't miss'm there.)
>>   > >> > 
>>   > >> > 
>>   > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>>   > > <amibroker@xxxx> 
>>   > >> > wrote:
>>   > >> >> Hello,
>>   > >> >> 
>>   > >> >> Please tell me who instructed you to remove all those 
> layout 
>>   > > files?
>>   > >> >> Now the only resolution is to run setup program ("upgrade 
>>   > > version")
>>   > >> >> from
>>   > >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker470up.exe
>>   > >> >> (and eventually apply latest beta if you are using one)
>>   > >> >> 
>>   > >> >> Setup will produce formula files for "default charts".
>>   > >> >> 
>>   > >> >> If this won't help you would need to delete (or better 
> rename)
>>   > >> >> broker.newcharts file and run setup again.
>>   > >> >> 
>>   > >> >> Best regards,
>>   > >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
>>   > >> >> amibroker.com
>>   > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   > >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>>   > >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>   > >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:24 PM
>>   > >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ongoing problem with black chart 
>>   panes 
>>   > > in 
>>   > >> > saved Layouts. Help!
>>   > >> >> 
>>   > >> >> 
>>   > >> >> > OK Tomasz, I screwed up big time. Learned my lesson. 
> But 
>>   > >> > meanwhile 
>>   > >> >> > I'm screwed. This is the situation now:
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > I checked out any black panes referring to files 
> that "do 
>>   not
>>   > >> >> > exist", traced their .afl file names and either moved 
> these 
>>   > > files 
>>   > >> >> > back to their original locations or created dummy files 
>>   under 
>>   > > the 
>>   > >> >> > same name. 
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > ** I then removed ALL layout files (NOT folders) 
> including 
>>   > >> > the .awl 
>>   > >> >> > files from the Layout subfolder in the database folder 
> ** 
>>   (did 
>>   > >> > back'm 
>>   > >> >> > up)
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > Re-opened AB to find the default Layout (MACD etc.) but 
> a 
>>   > >> > hopeless 
>>   > >> >> > situation: 
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > Any, ANY chart pane applied, including Basic charts 
> like 
>>   > > Price, 
>>   > >> > after 
>>   > >> >> > closing and re-opening AB, turn up as black panes with 
>>   (when 
>>   > >> >> > Ctrl+E`d) this message (literally) :
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > File does not exist:
>>   > >> >> > "
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > No more reference to any specific file but just one "-
>>   sign.  
>>   > >> >> > Desperately out of options.
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > TJ, please hit me hard... and then help me out.
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > -treliff
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>>   > >> > <amibroker@xxxx> 
>>   > >> >> > wrote:
>>   > >> >> >> Hello,
>>   > >> >> >> 
>>   > >> >> >> You must NOT delete afl files manually from Windows 
>>   Explorer.
>>   > >> >> >> Please use CHART TREE right click to delete any afl 
> files.
>>   > >> >> >> Doing so you are giving AmiBroker a chance to check if 
>>   file 
>>   > > is 
>>   > >> > in 
>>   > >> >> > use.
>>   > >> >> >> If you use Explorer instead - it just deletes the file 
> and 
>>   > > does 
>>   > >> > not 
>>   > >> >> > care
>>   > >> >> >> about it.
>>   > >> >> >> 
>>   > >> >> >> And for the panes: they are NOT miswired. Remember 
> that if
>>   > >> >> >> you use "Insert LINKED" - then more than one pane 
> SHARES 
>>   the 
>>   > > same
>>   > >> >> >> file. So please use ordinary INSERT as this way 
> separate 
>>   > > copies
>>   > >> >> >> are created and they are independent.
>>   > >> >> >> 
>>   > >> >> >> As for panes that are now black - simply close them.
>>   > >> >> >> Then re-insert indicators that were there (if you need 
>>   them).
>>   > >> >> >> 
>>   > >> >> >> Best regards,
>>   > >> >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
>>   > >> >> >> amibroker.com
>>   > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   > >> >> >> From: "treliff" <treliff@xxxx>
>>   > >> >> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>   > >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:17 PM
>>   > >> >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Ongoing problem with black chart 
>>   panes 
>>   > > in 
>>   > >> >> > saved Layouts. Help!
>>   > >> >> >> 
>>   > >> >> >> 
>>   > >> >> >> > This problem probably started when I manually 
> deleted 
>>   > > an .afl 
>>   > >> >> > file 
>>   > >> >> >> > that was part of the chart Layout. However it should 
>>   long 
>>   > > have 
>>   > >> >> > been 
>>   > >> >> >> > solved since I closed the black pane (one that 
>>   > > mentions "File
>>   > >> >> >> > does not exist" when right clicking) and replaced it 
>>   with 
>>   > > an 
>>   > >> >> >> > existing .afl file (pane).
>>   > >> >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> >> > I saved it as a new Local Layout, saved the 
> Database, 
>>   > > closed 
>>   > >> > and 
>>   > >> >> > re-
>>   > >> >> >> > opened etc. etc. The problem only increases: since I 
>>   added 
>>   > > two 
>>   > >> >> > more 
>>   > >> >> >> > (existing file) chart panes, when I open the 
> Database I 
>>   > > have 3 
>>   > >> >> > (!) 
>>   > >> >> >> > black panes instead of one. The whole thing seems 
>>   > > completely 
>>   > >> >> >> > miswired now.  
>>   > >> >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> >> > I used notepad to open the default.awl file 
> in "Layouts" 
>>   > >> >> > subfolder 
>>   > >> >> >> > inside database folder but have no clue if and how 
> to 
>>   work 
>>   > > in 
>>   > >> >> > this. 
>>   > >> >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> >> > Is there any way to force this problem out without 
>>   creating 
>>   > > a 
>>   > >> > new 
>>   > >> >> >> > database from scratch? Thanks!
>>   > >> >> >> > 
>>   > >> >> >> > -treliff
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