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[amibroker] OT: Re: Technical Vs technofundumental trading



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I have not done this recently but did do this long ago ... You don't 
really need to adjust per se but you do need to have historical 
fundamentals that you can OBJECTIVELY evaluate in order to decide 
what the higher ranking or scoring tradables are.  These are not easy 
to come by even in todays world.  I may have missed or may still be 
missing something but I long ago concluded that price & volume are 
where it's at as they reflect the sum total of knowledge or 
perception of knowledge that's out there.

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "seneca_kw" <seneca_kw@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Fred,
> 
> You're probably right, I just haven't seen anyone put forward hard 
> numbers to support it.  The details of the testing would be a 
little 
> tricky.  Off the top of my head, I guess I would create a watchlist 
> of stocks with top-rated fundamentals and one with bottom-rated 
> fundamentals.  Then I'd run various types of trading setups with 
each 
> watchlist and see if the differences in the results were 
> statistically significant.  
> 
> One of the problems, though, is that you would need to test over at 
> least several years of data, and since fundamentals are constantly 
> changing, you'd have to adjust for that somehow.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Fred" <ftonetti@xxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > You're right ... It does SOUND good ... If you have earnings data 
> for 
> > a few years I suggest you test your theory of buying good 
> fundamental 
> > candidates on dips .vs. buying candidates based on price action 
> > leading up to the dip, preferably from at least the previous 
dip.  
> In 
> > ten words or less I think you'll find that stocks with better 
price 
> > action perform better ... Why ? because not only is everyone 
aware 
> of 
> > the published fundamentals and already factored that into current 
> > price, but SOME are more aware then that and that is factored 
into 
> > price as well.
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "seneca_kw" <seneca_kw@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > To my mind, this is one of the biggest questions in trading.  
> Does 
> > > including fundamentals provide an additional edge?  It 
certainly 
> > > seems plausible.  If you're buying pullbacks, it makes sense 
that 
> a 
> > > company with strong fundamentals is more likely to reverse to 
the 
> > > upside than a company with weak fundamentals.
> > > 
> > > The fact that something is plausible doesn't make it true.  
Like 
> > > everything, it needs to be tested, and that's what I'd be very 
> > > interested in hearing about.  Even if someone doesn't have 
> results 
> > to 
> > > share, I'd be interested in discussing ideas about HOW to do 
the 
> > > testing.
> > > 
> > > Wayne
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Claude Caruana" 
> > > <claudecaruana@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >  
> > > > I am an Amibroker user for a few weeks now and I must say it 
is 
> > > about to
> > > > turn my trading method 180%.
> > > >  
> > > > I initially purchased Amibroker to be able to generate 
optimal 
> > > signals for a
> > > > watchlist of around 100 stocks which I have selected for 
their 
> > > fundumentals,
> > > > however I am finding that my results work much better and 
more 
> > > consistently
> > > > on the entire stock universe (The 7000 tickers I have loaded 
in 
> > my 
> > > db) than
> > > > if I try running it on any watchlists containing less that 
200 
> > > tickers.
> > > >  
> > > > I find that, in general, the most reliable entry signals 
occur 
> > very
> > > > infrequently, and hence, signals are too few and far apart to 
> > create
> > > > consistent results when the basis is my 100 stock watchlist. 
If 
> I 
> > > try to
> > > > "loosen the parameters" and get an optimal number of signals 
> for 
> > my 
> > > 100
> > > > stocks, then the system will not be as reliable as the one 
> > > with "tighter
> > > > parameters" scanning the entire stock universe.
> > > >  
> > > > Before I ditch my fundumental approach (which quite franky 
has 
> > yet 
> > > to give
> > > > me positve results!) altogether and start using a technical-
> only 
> > > system, I
> > > > would be very grateful if anybody could confirm whether my 
> > > observation about
> > > > entry signals is normal, or whether I am missing something. 
> > > Finally, are
> > > > there any of you out there who trade using technicals only? 
> > > >  
> > > > thanks for any feedback!
> > > >  
> > > > Claude





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