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I noticed and tested it last night Tomasz. I'll never understand how
you can cram so many goodies into each release. And they just keep
coming and coming and coming ...

As usual, much appreciated.

Dan

(And I'm glad you issued the "gag order" to the thread. If people want
to discuss politics (or other way off-topic subjects) and argue and
pontificate and demean each other, there are hundreds of other threads
where they don't do much else).

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Barry Scarborough wrote:
> >> A compiler that found all the errors, listed them at  the
> > > bottom with what the error definition is and allowing me to
click on
> > > that line and be taken to the error line would be much better,
but
> > > now we are talking about the diagnostic ability of a MS Visual
C++
> > > compiler. I double we will ever get that. But improvement could
be
> > > made.
> 
> Exactly this is available now in newly released AmiBroker 4.68.2
BETA.
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker-beta/message/1780
> 
> ( To my surprise apparently no-one noticed )
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Barry Scarborough" <razzbarry@xxxx>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:05 PM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Training and/or User Groups
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We need a comprehensive manual with well documented and coded
> > > examples with comments on each line, the more the better. And we
> > > need a compiler that locates the error and tells us what is 
> wrong.
> > > Both of the current items fall short of what we need to write
> > > effective code without pulling our hair out.
> > >
> > > I do not agree with using weekly subjects with examples within 
> the
> > > context of the forum. Have you tried to locate articles on the 
> forum
> > > using search arguments? It is almost impossible to find a 
> specific
> > > topic and difficult at best to find what you are looking for. A
> > > search returns many articles, then you have to browse through 
> them
> > > spending huge amounts of time and often coming away more 
> frustrated
> > > than when you began. Many of the example assume you already
know 
> how
> > > to program within AB, bad assumption, and they are not commented
> > > well at all. The more terse the example the more difficult they 
> are
> > > to follow. You can, and some often do, pack a lot of code on one
> > > line and unless you understand the language and have a block 
> comment
> > > above the code telling you what is being done in human
language, 
> you
> > > will not follow what is being done. Examples should not do this.
> > >
> > > An online manual or a newer version in PDF that allows searches
> > > would be good. How-to subjects with examples would be much
better
> > > than the manual we now have. The manual we now have often 
> provides
> > > links to examples on their website but they are not commented 
> well
> > > and many times are terse and very difficult for a newbie or
even 
> a
> > > programmer to understand. Finding exactly what you are looking 
> for
> > > is very difficult. But that is what the forum is for. If the
same
> > > question is asked over and over then it is a candidate for an 
> online
> > > example withj comments. Examples should also have meaningful
> > > variable names or good comments so they are easy to follow.
> > >
> > > Another thing that would really be helpful is a compiler that 
> placed
> > > the cursor ON THE FAILING LINE with a good explanation of what 
> the
> > > failure is. I often, especially when I am using for or if
> > > statements, I find an error at the end of the code with the 
> cursor
> > > on the last line of code and saying something like "Hey you 
> screwed
> > > up. He he. See if you can figure out where you made a mistake." 
> Many
> > > times I have had to comment out large blocks of code trying to 
> find
> > > out where the problem is. Then it is not always obvious what the
> > > error is. A compiler that found all the errors, listed them at 
> the
> > > bottom with what the error definition is and allowing me to 
> click on
> > > that line and be taken to the error line would be much better, 
> but
> > > now we are talking about the diagnostic ability of a MS Visual 
> C++
> > > compiler. I double we will ever get that. But improvement could 
> be
> > > made.
> > >
> > > A comprehensive manual is what we need. Allowing users to
provide
> > > comprehensive well document examples would be great too. Put 
> them in
> > > a library on the AB site, not in the forum.
> > >
> > > All the seminars I have attended, I am an IBM programmer and
have
> > > attended tons of them, addressed general topics, unless they are
> > > weeks long. Newbies need a general, low level seminar to get 
> used to
> > > the code. People who have a fairly good grasp of the language
and
> > > how to use it would require a more comprehensive seminar, 
> actually a
> > > programming class that lasts a week or more. But when you walk 
> away
> > > from a seminar you had better have a comprehensive manual
because
> > > you are not going to remember what you were taught in a month.
> > > Typically you lose 80% to 90% of what you are taught in three 
> months
> > > unless you start using it right away and keep at it. If you go 
> to a
> > > seminar and try to use what you learned a year later, forget
it. 
> You
> > > will be looking in the manual.
> > >
> > > We also need a more comprehensive description of how to use the
> > > Automatic Analysis tools, back tester especially. I have not 
> figuree
> > > out how to use them effectively yet and I have been coding in
AB 
> for
> > > 1.5 years. Once again, how do you set the settings? I still
don't
> > > know how to set them for a real world experience.
> > >
> > > Barry





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