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Re: [amibroker] Re: Training and/or User Groups



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Hello,

Thank you for your kind words.

As far as political thread I have deleted it.
And will delete each and every political thread that will appear here.
This is not the place to discuss politics. Period.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "danielwardadams" <danielwardadams@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Training and/or User Groups


> 
> 
> I noticed and tested it last night Tomasz. I'll never understand how
> you can cram so many goodies into each release. And they just keep
> coming and coming and coming ...
> 
> As usual, much appreciated.
> 
> Dan
> 
> (And I'm glad you issued the "gag order" to the thread. If people want
> to discuss politics (or other way off-topic subjects) and argue and
> pontificate and demean each other, there are hundreds of other threads
> where they don't do much else).
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Barry Scarborough wrote:
>> >> A compiler that found all the errors, listed them at  the
>> > > bottom with what the error definition is and allowing me to
> click on
>> > > that line and be taken to the error line would be much better,
> but
>> > > now we are talking about the diagnostic ability of a MS Visual
> C++
>> > > compiler. I double we will ever get that. But improvement could
> be
>> > > made.
>> 
>> Exactly this is available now in newly released AmiBroker 4.68.2
> BETA.
>> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker-beta/message/1780
>> 
>> ( To my surprise apparently no-one noticed )
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> amibroker.com
>> 
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "Barry Scarborough" <razzbarry@xxxx>
>> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:05 PM
>> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Training and/or User Groups
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > We need a comprehensive manual with well documented and coded
>> > > examples with comments on each line, the more the better. And we
>> > > need a compiler that locates the error and tells us what is 
>> wrong.
>> > > Both of the current items fall short of what we need to write
>> > > effective code without pulling our hair out.
>> > >
>> > > I do not agree with using weekly subjects with examples within 
>> the
>> > > context of the forum. Have you tried to locate articles on the 
>> forum
>> > > using search arguments? It is almost impossible to find a 
>> specific
>> > > topic and difficult at best to find what you are looking for. A
>> > > search returns many articles, then you have to browse through 
>> them
>> > > spending huge amounts of time and often coming away more 
>> frustrated
>> > > than when you began. Many of the example assume you already
> know 
>> how
>> > > to program within AB, bad assumption, and they are not commented
>> > > well at all. The more terse the example the more difficult they 
>> are
>> > > to follow. You can, and some often do, pack a lot of code on one
>> > > line and unless you understand the language and have a block 
>> comment
>> > > above the code telling you what is being done in human
> language, 
>> you
>> > > will not follow what is being done. Examples should not do this.
>> > >
>> > > An online manual or a newer version in PDF that allows searches
>> > > would be good. How-to subjects with examples would be much
> better
>> > > than the manual we now have. The manual we now have often 
>> provides
>> > > links to examples on their website but they are not commented 
>> well
>> > > and many times are terse and very difficult for a newbie or
> even 
>> a
>> > > programmer to understand. Finding exactly what you are looking 
>> for
>> > > is very difficult. But that is what the forum is for. If the
> same
>> > > question is asked over and over then it is a candidate for an 
>> online
>> > > example withj comments. Examples should also have meaningful
>> > > variable names or good comments so they are easy to follow.
>> > >
>> > > Another thing that would really be helpful is a compiler that 
>> placed
>> > > the cursor ON THE FAILING LINE with a good explanation of what 
>> the
>> > > failure is. I often, especially when I am using for or if
>> > > statements, I find an error at the end of the code with the 
>> cursor
>> > > on the last line of code and saying something like "Hey you 
>> screwed
>> > > up. He he. See if you can figure out where you made a mistake." 
>> Many
>> > > times I have had to comment out large blocks of code trying to 
>> find
>> > > out where the problem is. Then it is not always obvious what the
>> > > error is. A compiler that found all the errors, listed them at 
>> the
>> > > bottom with what the error definition is and allowing me to 
>> click on
>> > > that line and be taken to the error line would be much better, 
>> but
>> > > now we are talking about the diagnostic ability of a MS Visual 
>> C++
>> > > compiler. I double we will ever get that. But improvement could 
>> be
>> > > made.
>> > >
>> > > A comprehensive manual is what we need. Allowing users to
> provide
>> > > comprehensive well document examples would be great too. Put 
>> them in
>> > > a library on the AB site, not in the forum.
>> > >
>> > > All the seminars I have attended, I am an IBM programmer and
> have
>> > > attended tons of them, addressed general topics, unless they are
>> > > weeks long. Newbies need a general, low level seminar to get 
>> used to
>> > > the code. People who have a fairly good grasp of the language
> and
>> > > how to use it would require a more comprehensive seminar, 
>> actually a
>> > > programming class that lasts a week or more. But when you walk 
>> away
>> > > from a seminar you had better have a comprehensive manual
> because
>> > > you are not going to remember what you were taught in a month.
>> > > Typically you lose 80% to 90% of what you are taught in three 
>> months
>> > > unless you start using it right away and keep at it. If you go 
>> to a
>> > > seminar and try to use what you learned a year later, forget
> it. 
>> You
>> > > will be looking in the manual.
>> > >
>> > > We also need a more comprehensive description of how to use the
>> > > Automatic Analysis tools, back tester especially. I have not 
>> figuree
>> > > out how to use them effectively yet and I have been coding in
> AB 
>> for
>> > > 1.5 years. Once again, how do you set the settings? I still
> don't
>> > > know how to set them for a real world experience.
>> > >
>> > > Barry
> 
> 
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