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[amibroker] Exit Strategy (was Re: TJ: TASC February 2005 Traders Tips)



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--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Pal Anand" <palsanand@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I would not use a Break-Even stop either.  The reason 
being
> that when one is investing for the long-term, the short-term
> fluctuations may take out the Break-Even stop, leaving you flat.  
The
> only stop I would use is a worst case stop-loss based on 
fundamentals.   
> 
> I find it rather silly and unnecessary to use a profit target. I 
might
> consider using a limit order to sell at projected high of the day.  
I
> would just exit at the open or close when circumstances warrant it. 
> When the framework of evidence collapes, the architecture is merely 
an
> illusion, a mirage, or in other words, castles in the air.  If my
> beliefs cause shock in others, my sincere apologies...
> 
> rgds, Pal
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "yukitaga" <yukitaga@xxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > Someone who shall remain nameless tossed out this gem for serious 
> > consideration (watch the line wrap):
> > 
> > > Is exiting a portion of your trade before your profit target is
> > > hit a viable strategy?
> > 
> > (watch the line wrap)
> > 
> > 
http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Abstracts_new/Passam
> > onte/Passamonte.html
> > 
> > The guy who wrote this is a real kick.  ^^_^^  First, he begins 
his 
> > article with an invocation to the sanctity of mathematics, which 
I 
> > don't really have a problem with.  But then he proceeds to set up 
a 
> > straw man using statistics, which Mark Twain had a commentary on 
> > something to the superlative of 'damned lies'.
> > 
> > (If you have never read "Letters From The Earth" [Mark Twain], 
you 
> > are missing one of the great satirical writings in the English 
> > language.  I don't literally ROTFLOL very often, but I did many 
> > times when reading that book.)
> > 
> > The whole *point* of taking something off the table before some 
> > profit target is hit seems to be beyond this self-
> > proclaimed "professional trader" who (I paraphrase) doesn't 
bother 
> > with a "few points" on the S&P, but who holds out for 5 to 10 
points 
> > or more on every trade.
> > 
> > I'm impressed . . . ^^_^^  No, really!  ^^_^^  I love taking the 
> > other side of the trade against people who know where the market 
is 
> > headed before it arrives there, and who aren't going to take 
> > any "nonsenese" from the market if it happens to disagree.
> > 
> > But this God's gift to trading doesn't even seem to understand 
that 
> > one RAISES THE STOP when one takes a partial profit on a 
position.  
> > The whole point, the only point, and the point that counts is: 
> > DEFENSE.  That is why one takes partial profits.  One does not do 
it 
> > attempting to maximize profits, but to protect capital.  
> > Maximization of profit is wonderful.  Hey, I'm all for it.  But 
only 
> > AFTER the defense is set up.  Before that, the whole idea is 
> > balderdash and hooey gooey poppycock.  Perhaps someone else has 
> > better and more modern adjectives.  My English is dated.  In any 
> > case, defense first, and anyone who doesn't play that way is dead 
> > meat in this business.
> > 
> > But the silly little argument with charts in that article has 
> > someone taking a profit, then leaving the stop below breakeven.
> > 
> > Duh!  Gee, I wonder why the math works out like that?  *_*
> > 
> > Sorry, but I just couldn't let that little bit of 3-card Monty go 
> > without a challenge.
> > 
> > Yuki





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