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If you want to survive in this world you owe it to yourself to learn about
computer protection; it is like food on the table.
[Tomasz] Sorry but I don't understand. According to my knowledge messages
are NOT trimmed by Yahoo.
My original post actually addressed user bahavior, not technical list
organization.
[Tomasz] Yes we can try to re-enable. But the problem is not only about the
viruses itself, but rather about the way it is sent. A couple of attacts
used spoofed e-mail addresses and the messages appeared (at first look) to
be from legitimate users of this list including me.
My NAV catches about 10 infected attachments a week, my weekly scan finds
occassional infections that appears to come from web pages, i get fake
letters from banks and lottery companies, not only Amibroker :-) and from
some very strange people who want to put a million dollar in my bank account
:-))) viruses sometimes come in batches, 2 or 3 at a time - it makes you
wonder.
Anyway, I was trying to encourage posters to either leave previous text
attached or copy selected parts from previous posts to make the post useful
on its own. Some wishful guidelines to make your posts more effective:
1) Use a descriptive subject line, in general no complains here :-)
2) At the end of a series of post summarize the result/conclusion/code and
add the word "summary" to the subject line
3) Provide a descriptive introduction to your problem/topic in the first few
lines of your post
4) When replying to a long post copy the question ahead of your answer,
anythink at the end will rarily be read.
5) If you want to save bandwidth delete the yahoo garbage at the end of the
post, and delete early posts that were repeated many times over in replies.
This list has a great amount of expertise, it is a great source of ideas and
excellent code. I am very grateful to all those who take time to contribute.
But the list has high volume... so unless contents is easily accesible it
will be passed over and key points/ideas are missed.
best regards,
herman.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:26 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
>
> Hi TJ / All,
>
> Just felt the urge to add my 2 cents because I agree with Herman and
Corey
> on both points:
>
> 1. Re trimming messages - I know that some people have problems with
long
> messages, but I would suggest that, at least where people are posting
> code/formulas for someone, please leave the original request intact so
we
> can tell what the code is for without having to track down the original
> e-mail.
Sorry but I don't understand. According to my knowledge messages are NOT
trimmed by Yahoo.
If someone, when replying, decides to trim the past correspondence
manually, it is his/her choice.
>
> 2. I miss the attachments also. On the one hand, I understand TJ's
desire to
> maintain a high-quality list that people feel safe about joining. On the
> other hand, we are missing out on a major component of the list which,
to my
> mind at least, is far superior to going to the boards all the time.
After
> weighing the pro's and con's, it seems to me that the attachments should
be
> turned back on. It does seem hard to believe there are still people out
> there that are not aware of the dangers, or still refuse to use a
quality
> anti-virus product (there are even free ones out there!). At the risk of
> sounding harsh, it is probably time they learned one way or the other.
> People also have the option of not opening *any* attachment from this
group
> if they so choose, while those who protect their computer responsibly
and
> wish to assume the risk would be able to do so.
Yes we can try to re-enable. But the problem is not only about the viruses
itself,
but rather about the way it is sent. A couple of attacts used spoofed
e-mail addresses
and the messages appeared (at first look) to be from legitimate users of
this list
including me. Only checking e-mail headers reveals that e-mail is spoofed,
but
what percentage of people look in the headers? The rest is trustfully
opening an e-mail
that looks like it was from me.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Herman van den Bergen
>>> To: AmiBroker YahooGroups
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:55 AM
>>> Subject: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as before????
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I don't know what others think about this but i find many posts
becoming
>>> useless because they have been trimmed to "save bandwidth" and/or are
>>> incomplete. I may see interesting posts but because earlier text has
>>> been
>>> removed they have essentially become noise to me. Of course the loss
of
>>> attachments is a major blow as well.
>>>
>>> I really miss the complete (uncut) posts we had before, they were a
joy
>>> to
>>> read - we no longer have continuity in many topics and i don't have
>>> time to
>>> search/browse/follow-links to find out what it is all about.
Everybody,
>>> please make an effort to make your posts a stand-alone item, i.e.
>>> include
>>> earlier text or copy relevant earlier-text to your post to make it
>>> meaningful on its own.
>>>
>>> I bet many of you, just like me, are missing out on many wonderful
ideas
>>> and
>>> applications that were reduced to noise in the pursuit of brevity and
>>> bandwidth.
>>>
>>> It is not a sin to use bandwidth if it helps you to get the point
across
>>> or
>>> make things more clear for the reader!!!!
>>>
>>> many thanks,
>>> herman.
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