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Re: [amibroker] Fisher Question - TJ?



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Hi guys for the useful links about option / volatility

I find this link an interesting reading 

http://www.ivolatility.com/news/Putting_volatility_to_work.pdf

Does anyone trade the ASX-50 options know how w can get Implied Vol.
(IV) current anf historic for the ASX-50 options ?

It seems that u need both HV and IV to help with option strategy

Anyone recommend any useful book to trade option in ASx-50 ?

thanks again

cheers

Henry

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve Almond" <steve2@xxxx> wrote:
> Bundy,
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. I am reasonably familiar with the 
concept and importance of volatility in options trading. What I was 
more interested in was the specific interpretation of the volatility 
curves you wrote in AFL.
> For instance, looking at the attached chart of DIA, does the 
interesting looking crossover of the curves around 3/12/04 tell you 
something important?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arthur Sawilejskij" <arthur@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re : volatility indicators to help with 
option trading
> 
> 
> > Options trading can be risky and volatile - but if you get a 
handle on it - 
> > the returns and lifestyle are terrific.
> > 
> > Option pricing and profitability is based on the implied 
volatility - 
> > generally in line with the short term volatility of the stock - 
but subject 
> > to short term fluctuations in implied volatility and price - 
meaning that 
> > at times options are overpriced or underpriced in relation to 
their implied 
> > volatility and short and long term historical volatilities.
> > 
> > While at any time during their term options may be overpriced or 
> > underpriced - over the life of the option it will move towards 
it's fair value.
> > 
> > So, setting aside directional considerations for the moment - if 
you buy an 
> > underpriced option - you can expect it to appreciate naturally 
with the 
> > passage of time (ignore time decay effects).
> > 
> > Also, the short term historical volatility of a stock tends to 
oscillate or 
> > move or meander around it's long term historical volatility 
levels.
> > 
> > So, the ideal setup is to buy undervalued options whose short 
term 
> > historical volatility is below the long term historical 
volatility level.
> > 
> > The natural tendency of volatility and implied volatility to 
revert to the 
> > mean works in your favor - considerably compounding any 
directional benefit 
> > you get from the highly leveraged trade.
> > 
> > If the options were overpriced and/or the short term historical 
volatility 
> > was greater than the long term historical volatility - the trade 
may not be 
> > favorable for buying a call, for example, but you could take 
advantage of 
> > the pricing disparity by selling puts instead - so that any 
probably 
> > subsequent drop in volatility would directly benefit your sold 
position.
> > 
> > The converse - if you had of bought the calls in such an 
unfavorable 
> > environment - and price of the stabilized or only increased 
moderately and 
> > volatility came off - you would be facing a loss, 
notwithstanding that you 
> > had the direction right.
> > 
> > Volatility is the most important consideration in options 
trading - and in 
> > the usa - with higher liquidity and greater volatility - you 
don't even 
> > have to trade direction - you just trade volatility - generally 
in spreads 
> > or combinations or adopt a delta neutral strategy.
> > 
> > Bundy
> > 
> > :
> > >Could you explain how you use these volatility curves? What 
sort of 
> > >pattern/crossing would tempt you to buy an option, for example?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Steve
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <mailto:arthur@x...>Arthur Sawilejskij
> > >To: <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:46 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re : volatility indicators to help 
with option 
> > >trading
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hi, I am currently trade option
> > > >I am using the following volatility comparing short term and 
long
> > > >term volality to time when to buy and sell options.
> > > >
> > > >pds1=30;//Set your time period
> > > >pds2=200;//Set your time period
> > > >Graph0 = StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),pds1)*sqrt(365)*100;
> > > >Graph1 = StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),pds2)*sqrt(365)*100;
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone has better indicator that they use to compare 
short/long
> > > >term volatility?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >
> > > >Henry
> > >
> > >I trade options in Australia as well.
> > >
> > >I use the following for the volatility
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >GraphXSpace=10;
> > >
> > >Plot(StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),20) * sqrt(260)*100, "20 days",
> > >colorRed, styleThick);
> > >
> > >Plot(StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),30) * sqrt(260)*100, "30 days", 
> > >colorBrightGreen, styleThick);
> > >
> > >
> > >Plot(StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),90) * sqrt(260)*100, "90 days",
> > >colorYellow, styleThick);
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I use 20 and 30 days to compare short term as my option trades 
are usually 
> > >in options that have 4 to 6 weeks till expiry - 20 to 30 days.
> > >
> > >I compare that to the 90 - which is what you want for HV.
> > >
> > >One further point - we have 260 trading days in the year - 
hence my 260 
> > >compared to your 365 days.
> > >
> > >I think you will find if you use my figures you will get HV 
measures that 
> > >accord with the official ones you get from the ASX - the HV 
values you 
> > >calculate would be way off and not much help in working out if 
your 
> > >shares/options are overvalued, etc.
> > >
> > >Been using the setup successfully for ages - great help for 
option trading 
> > >and keeps me out of trades where volatility shifts might kill 
the trade.
> > >
> > >Bundy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
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