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I like this site a lot for both HV and IV 
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<A 
href="">http://www.ivolatility.com/options.j?ticker=frx&R=1&x=29&y=11
 
Pls keep in mind, there may be situations where the 
historic volatility is very low while implied volatiliy is high.... Example 
Copper Futures....HV is low but option volatility is very high....a sign of 
explosive move soon.
 
Ideally you wanna look for situations where a 
stock's historic volatility AND options implied are near 52 week lows for at the 
money straddle purchases.
example:
<A 
href="">http://www.ivolatility.com/options.j?ticker=ctx&R=1&x=14&y=10
CTX HV and Iv near 52 week low...Ideal setup for a 
big move with a straddle.
 
Cheers,Padhu
PS: If you are new to this I would suggest buying 
all books written by Larry Mcmillan...Just OUTSTANDING
     Sorry if this is off topic 
folks -AB 
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  dingo 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:26 
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  Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re : volatility 
  indicators to help with option trading
  
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  color=#0000ff size=2>Got any references on where I can learn more (especially 
  how to determine "undervalue" and volitility)?
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  <FONT face=Arial 
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    From: Arthur Sawilejskij 
    [mailto:arthur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 
    6:31 PMTo: <A 
    href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
    Re: [amibroker] Re : volatility indicators to help with option 
    trading
    Options trading can be risky and volatile - but if you get a 
    handle on it - the returns and lifestyle are terrific.Option 
    pricing and profitability is based on the implied volatility - generally 
    in line with the short term volatility of the stock - but subject to 
    short term fluctuations in implied volatility and price - meaning that 
    at times options are overpriced or underpriced in relation to their 
    implied volatility and short and long term historical 
    volatilities.While at any time during their term options may be 
    overpriced or underpriced - over the life of the option it will move 
    towards it's fair value.So, setting aside directional considerations 
    for the moment - if you buy an underpriced option - you can expect it to 
    appreciate naturally with the passage of time (ignore time decay 
    effects).Also, the short term historical volatility of a stock tends 
    to oscillate or move or meander around it's long term historical 
    volatility levels.So, the ideal setup is to buy undervalued options 
    whose short term historical volatility is below the long term historical 
    volatility level.The natural tendency of volatility and implied 
    volatility to revert to the mean works in your favor - considerably 
    compounding any directional benefit you get from the highly leveraged 
    trade.If the options were overpriced and/or the short term 
    historical volatility was greater than the long term historical 
    volatility - the trade may not be favorable for buying a call, for 
    example, but you could take advantage of the pricing disparity by 
    selling puts instead - so that any probably subsequent drop in 
    volatility would directly benefit your sold position.The converse - 
    if you had of bought the calls in such an unfavorable environment - and 
    price of the stabilized or only increased moderately and volatility came 
    off - you would be facing a loss, notwithstanding that you had the 
    direction right.Volatility is the most important consideration in 
    options trading - and in the usa - with higher liquidity and greater 
    volatility - you don't even have to trade direction - you just trade 
    volatility - generally in spreads or combinations or adopt a delta 
    neutral strategy.Bundy:>Could you explain how you use 
    these volatility curves? What sort of >pattern/crossing would tempt 
    you to buy an option, for 
    example?>>Thanks,>>Steve>----- Original 
    Message ----->From: <mailto:arthur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Arthur 
    Sawilejskij>To: 
    <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
    Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:46 PM>Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re : 
    volatility indicators to help with option 
    >trading>>>> >Hi, I am currently trade 
    option> >I am using the following volatility comparing short term 
    and long> >term volality to time when to buy and sell 
    options.> >> >pds1=30;//Set your time period> 
    >pds2=200;//Set your time period> >Graph0 = 
    StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),pds1)*sqrt(365)*100;> >Graph1 = 
    StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),pds2)*sqrt(365)*100;> >> >Does 
    anyone has better indicator that they use to compare short/long> 
    >term volatility?> >> >Cheers> >> 
    >Henry>>I trade options in Australia as 
    well.>>I use the following for the 
    volatility>>>>>>GraphXSpace=10;>>Plot(StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),20) 
    * sqrt(260)*100, "20 days",>colorRed, 
    styleThick);>>Plot(StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),30) * sqrt(260)*100, 
    "30 days", >colorBrightGreen, 
    styleThick);>>>Plot(StDev(log(C/Ref(C,-1)),90) * 
    sqrt(260)*100, "90 days",>colorYellow, 
    styleThick);>>>>I use 20 and 30 days to compare 
    short term as my option trades are usually >in options that have 4 to 
    6 weeks till expiry - 20 to 30 days.>>I compare that to the 90 
    - which is what you want for HV.>>One further point - we have 
    260 trading days in the year - hence my 260 >compared to your 365 
    days.>>I think you will find if you use my figures you will 
    get HV measures that >accord with the official ones you get from the 
    ASX - the HV values you >calculate would be way off and not much help 
    in working out if your >shares/options are overvalued, 
    etc.>>Been using the setup successfully for ages - great help 
    for option trading >and keeps me out of trades where volatility 
    shifts might kill the 
    trade.>>Bundy>>>>>>>>>>Send 
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