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A couple of other things regarding this
thread. The external USB drives are significantly faster than any CDR, I
can copy a 180mb file in just a matter of minutes without any problems. I
have used CDR's in the past for data backup and have had problems reading the
data afterwards (not immediately but several weeks-months later and not on all
CD's), try reading an archived CD to make sure that they are still
readable. IF you are going to install a second or even third hard drive
into your case you had better make sure that there is plenty of air flow to the
inside of the case as the newer faster drives do tend to heat up. Bottom
line, decide on some type of a backup and use it religiously as it's only a
matter of time before you have to restore your data.
ron
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Michael.S.G.
To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:17
AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] 1.65 gigs OK for
awhile?
Opps, Forgot to mention this.....Yuki, you
say:The odds of both the internal and external goingdown at the
same time have to be pretty small I would think. Notimpossible, but
pretty small.And yes I agree. But this is not the point of
backup.......What if, You accidentaly erase some important file in your
system.And I mean realy erase - Empty trash - And have done alot of disk
writing since.You think - Oh no worries - And plug your USB drive
in.Ah there's the file - Hmm, But the directories have some wierd glyphics
in it....Oh well - You go ahead and Copy the file. Pop it in it's
proper place....Well I guess you know the rest of the story..... You'd
wanna hope that 3rdUSB drive you bought has some current data on it.
;-)KR Michael.At 11:10 PM 15/12/2003, you
wrote:>Hi Michael.S.G.,>>Monday, December 15, 2003,
8:47:31 PM, you wrote:>>MSG> Hello Ron,>MSG> This
sounds like a resonable plan, Except the backing up to external
USB>MSG> drive.>MSG> To put it simply - Hard Drives are
still fragile things, And having one>MSG> Eternal to
your>MSG> computer is ok as a Transit device, But not a backup
device.>MSG>
External>MSG> HD is not safe for Backup's!>>Oh gosh I
disagree. The odds of both the internal and external going>down
at the same time have to be pretty small I would think.
Not>impossible, but pretty small. And at the price of drives, if
I>worried about that very much, I'd just get a third and have
two>backup sets. This is with the caveat that I don't keep the
external>on line all the time, only turning it on for backups.
When it's off,>it's disconnected completely from the system, so it is
electrically>separate.>>MSG> You would be worth
popping in a CD-Burner (Cheap now) if you havn't>MSG> already
got>MSG> one, And Backing up to CD. Even more so now that CD-R is so
darn>MSG> inexpensive.>>I don't know about you, but
for me, a CD is *way* too small and much>too slow. I do a "flash"
backup (to my USB drive) every night (not>including partition images
which are done only once a week). This>clones certain directories and
hierarchies to the USB using a program>called XXCOPY, and just consists
of data, my AB files, e-mail, and My>Documents, and other things I just
don't want to risk losing. Takes>only minutes. But it's 7.5 gigs,
and it constantly grows. I'd be>burning CDs all night.
CDROM is *not* for backup. The capacity is
a>joke.>>MSG> Tape backup is generaly too expensive
AND IMHO not particualy>MSG> reliable.>MSG> I have
had Data backed up on DAT, only to loose it when I tried to>MSG>
restore - And>MSG> the Dat drive ate my tape :-(>>It's
not the way to go. We agree there; however DAT is
incredibly>reliable. But it's slow, and the capacities needed to
backup today's>larger drives are quite expensive. Did I say
slow? ^_->>MSG> Currently, I Backup to a fileserver
running RAID array. So if one of the>MSG> HD's crash
Burn - I Just pull it out Pop a new one in - The>MSG>
data is rebuild on the>MSG> new drive. There is a cost of course -
You need x4 HD's to make the>MSG> RAID>MSG> and you loose
the space of 1 drive. ie 480gb ends up 360gb.>>Now in my
opinion, this is NOT as reliable as the offline USB>external.
Why? Because all your drives are on line, all the time,>in the
same system. Any electrical problem you might have that
would>take out one drive would be likely to take them all out. I
think you>are taking more risk than I am if you don't ALSO have
external>backup. Some destructive virus (yeah, I don't think they
can get me>either, but you never know) could take out the entire set,
too. In>any case, a lightning strike has the potential to fry
your system>from top to bottom. My USB will be unplugged and completely
off line.>It will live. (And if it dies on me some day, I'll buy
another one>immediately. I think the odds of the internal and
external dying on>the same day are very slim and
zero.)>>MSG> Anyway - I would not recommend using an External
drive as a backup>MSG> system.>MSG> By the sounds of your
setup - You would be better burning to>MSG>
CD.>>Yuck. ^^_^^>>MSG> Also, Definatly
leave that 1.6 gig free on your C: drive. As Graham said,>MSG> temp
files and the like need space to work in, Also - You never know
what>MSG> you might copy to>MSG> the
desktop..........>>Storage today is measured in the dozens of
GB. I can't imagine a>system with less than about 50 gigs of
total storage, and even that>would leave me feeling really
cramped. As many have said about data,>I will say about your
system: spend the money, upgrade and get>*cavernous* space (I realized
years ago you need about 4x the space>you *think* you might need to be
comfortable for any reasonable>length of time. If you can't afford it,
you are probably>undercapitalized anyway for trading. If you want
this to be a>business, you have to have the tools, and worrying about
the last 1.6>gigs on an internal HD is not having the right
tools.>>Yuki>>>>Send BUG REPORTS to
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