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Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas



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Phsst,
 
Actually, I've been doing some more extensive 
testing and it seems that the RR ratio is holding up better than the other 
ranking mechanisms that were posted.
 
So, I might just stick with what I've been using 
all along !
 
I guess the ranking mechanism is really dependent 
on the "personality" of your trading system.  The RR ratio fits really well 
with the system I'm using.
 
HB
 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  Phsst 
  To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:43 
  AM
  Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore 
  Ideas
  HB,Good idea.I used to Filter based upon a 
  Risk/Reward ratio calculation, but havenot yet used it as a 
  PositionScore.Thanks,Phsst--- In <A 
  href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "HB" 
  <hmab@x...> wrote:> Gary,> 
  > The reward-risk ratio is on a per signal basis.  Each potential 
  buysignal is ranked by its RR ratio.  > > RR = 
  potential reward for this trade / potential risk for this trade> 
  > I don't think that's the same as UPI, right ?> > 
  HB> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Gary A. Serkhoshian >   To: 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >   Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 
  11:40 PM>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore 
  Ideas> > >   HB,> >   
  Sounds like UPI or similar, yes?  They all seem to do about the 
  same.> >   Regards,>   Gary> 
  >   HB <hmab@xxxx> 
  wrote:>     Phsst, no you did not miss it because I 
  never posted it.> >     My original one is 
  based on a really simple reward/risk ratio. The higher the ratio, the 
  better.> >     I'm also going to check out 
  the suggestion of using system'spast performance on the stock.  
  That's how I regularly select mybasket, but I never thought of using it to 
  rank.  This would be akinto what Chuck & other have been saying 
  all along.  I.e. don't select abasket, let the ranking sort through 
  all stocks and pick the good ones.> >     
  HB> >       ----- Original Message 
  ----- >       From: Phsst 
  >       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >       Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 
  11:04 PM>       Subject: [amibroker] Re: 
  PositionScore Ideas> > 
  >       HB,> 
  >       I looked and could not find where 
  you posted your favorite>       
  Positionscore method. > >       
  Did I miss it?> >       
  Phsst> >       --- In 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "HB" <hmab@xxxx> 
  wrote:>       > FYI, I tried all the 
  position score methods that have beenposted 
  in>       the past few days.  They 
  all performed worse than the one I 
  was>       currently using, except for 
  Fred's BB example.>       > 
  >       > It increased all the "good 
  stats" by 50% but it alsoincreased 
  my>       MDD by 50%.  So, MDD is 
  now at an unacceptable point, 
  butdefinitely>       worth a look 
  into this scoring mechanism.>       > 
  >       > 
  HB>       > 
  >       >   ----- Original 
  Message ----- >       >   
  From: Gary A. Serkhoshian >       
  >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >       >   Sent: Saturday, 
  December 13, 2003 1:00 PM>       
  >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore 
  Ideas>       > 
  >       > 
  >       >   Hi Al 
  !>       > 
  >       >   For shorter-term 
  signals, it seems like volatility is 
  yourbest>       friend, and you'd 
  mentioned that you've already tried that.  
  >       > 
  >       >   So, how about 
  Fred's BollingerBand example:>       > 
  >       >   BBandWid = 
  2;>       > 
  >       >   UBBand = 
  BBandTop(Close, 21, BBandWid);>       
  > >       >   LBBand = 
  BBandBot(Close, 21, BBandWid);>       
  > >       >   
  PositionScore = 100 - 100 * (Close - LBBand) / (UBBand 
  ->       LBBand);//0 when C == Upper 
  Band, 100 when C == Lower Band>       
  > >       >   OR a 
  variation of good 'ol RT>       > 
  >       >   RT = Close / 
  MA(Close,13);  //64 bar is the original 
  version>       > 
  >       > 
  >       >   BTW, if you 
  don't mind sharing what are you basing yoursignals 
  on>       to give such short terms 
  swings?  You can keep in general ifyou 
  like>       (ie. ma-based, 
  oscillator-based, etc.)>       > 
  >       >   Kind 
  Regards,>       >   
  Gary>       > 
  >       >   Al Venosa 
  <advenosa@xxxx> wrote:>       
  >     Thanks, Phsst. I'm a QP2 user also. But all those 
  QP2>       GetExtraData variables are not 
  updated daily, so I don't 
  thinkthey>       would be useful for 
  a short-term trading system like I was 
  talking>       about. Using PositionScore 
  over a modest time period, you'dget 
  the>       same 4 stocks all the time, 
  wouldn't you, or at least untilthey 
  get>       updated. Perhaps QRS gets 
  updated weekly, so maybe thatwouldn't be 
  as>       bad, but I think I'd like 
  something that is more reflective of 
  the>       trade system duration, in 
  other words, something that I can 
  update>       daily at EOD. 
  >       > 
  >       > 
  >       
  >       ----- Original Message ----- 
  >       
  >       From: Phsst 
  >       
  >       To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >       
  >       Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 
  12:26 PM>       
  >       Subject: [amibroker] Re: 
  PositionScore Ideas>       > 
  >       > 
  >       
  >       
  Al,>       > 
  >       
  >       My favorite is the QP2 QRS value 
  (GetExtraData("QRS").The QP2 
  QRS>       
  >       value is supposed to be a 'knockoff' 
  of the IBD RSranking score.>       
  > >       
  >       I almost always get a significant 
  boost using this ranking>       figure 
  as>       
  >       as the 
  positionscore.>       > 
  >       
  >       If you do not have QP2, but have any 
  ideas about how to do>       your own 
  RS>       
  >       Rank calculation, I'd be happy to run 
  some comparisonsfor you (or>       
  >       anyone else) to measure your 
  calculated RS Rankagainst 
  QP2's>       QRS 
  rank.>       > 
  >       
  >       
  Cheers,>       > 
  >       
  >       
  Phsst>       
  >       --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al 
  Venosa"<advenosa@xxxx>>       
  wrote:>       
  >       > Hi, 
  all:>       
  >       > 
  >       
  >       > I've been experimenting with 
  variuos short termtrading 
  systems>       
  >       lately (average trade durations of 
  about 2.5 days),and I was>       
  looking>       
  >       for ideas on how best to rank a 
  watchlist to get the best>       
  candidates>       
  >       for portfolio trading a basket of 4 
  stocks. I waswondering if>       
  anyone>       
  >       would care to share any ideas on how 
  you use thePositionScore>       
  >       function to rank your candidate list 
  (using regularmode, not>       
  >       rotational mode). I've tried 
  combinations of turnover and>       
  volatility,>       
  >       but I'd like to try other ideas. I'm 
  not asking anyoneto give>       
  away>       
  >       any secrets, and, yes, I am aware of 
  TJ's example inthe help file>       
  >       (PositionScore = 100 -RSI());), but I 
  was just looking for>       more 
  ideas.>       
  >       I'm not even sure if this question is 
  too vague ornot. If it>       is, 
  I'm>       
  >       sure you'll tell me. 
  TIA.>       
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  >       
  >       > Al 
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