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[amibroker] Re: An effective stopping methodology - 3BSMA and powerSAR stops



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3BSMA stop - 3 Bar Simple Moving Average Stop

Plot(MA(C,3),"MA3",colorWhite,1);

rgds, Pal
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nkis22" <nkishor@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Interesting, though I do not know what is 3BSMA stop.
> 
> nand
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I have been searching for an effective stopping methodology for a 
> > very long time (since I began trading).  I experimented with 
> several, 
> > like all kinds of MA based stops, Gann's Rule of Eights stop, ATR 
> > based stops etc., I finally may have found a good one.  It is 
based 
> > on the theory that there are essentially two types of markets:  
> > Trending and Trading Range.  An instrument does not start a new 
> trend 
> > immediately after ending the previous trend.  It might go into a 
> > consolidation phase (Trading Range) before starting a new trend.  
> The 
> > problem is to time this start of a new trend.  Sometimes we have 
to 
> > wait for a long time indeed, thus if we enter the market too 
soon, 
> we 
> > get whipsawed.  To solve this problem, I came out with the 
> > following:  Use a "mental stop" on day of entry at a reasonable 
> > distance from your entry point.  Either an ATR based stop or a 
> pivot 
> > point support/resistance based stop would suffice and exit only 
> after 
> > 20 minutes has passed since your mental stop is exceeded and you 
> are 
> > still losing.  Use a 3BSMA stop during the initial stages (from 
> next 
> > session after entry when the start of a new trend is still not 
yet 
> > confirmed) in accordance with the principle: Cut your losses 
short.
> > 
> > Plot(MA(C,3),"MA3",colorWhite,1);
> > 
> > Once, a new trend has started (confirmed by LinRegReveral 
Indicator 
> > and/or Zig-Zag trend indicator) and powerSAR has also confirmed 
the 
> > new trend, use the following stop in accordance with the 
principle: 
> > Let your profits run.
> > 
> > Plot(scPowerSar(0.02,0.01,0.2),"PowerSAR",-16,8+16);
> > 
> > (You need AB's dll's to use this function)
> > 
> > SAR is the Stop and Reverse system developed by Welles Wilder.  
> This 
> > system indicates where one should exit a trade and simultaneously 
> > reverse positions.  It may also be coded to provide a stop for 
> > tomorrow's trading action.  This function does not work with 
> > Equivolume chart.  
> > 
> > This provides a systematic way to set a stop order.  The stops 
are 
> > changed daily and are adjusted to suit the market's conditions.  
It 
> > also keeps you constantly in the market.  When one gets stopped 
> out, 
> > you are also to initiate a trade in the opposite direction (In 
> > reality, you would already may have gotten a reversal signal and 
> may 
> > be already trading it using a 3BSMA stop).  This is generally 
used 
> by 
> > futures and forex traders.  Stock traders could of course short 
the 
> > stock however, one could also just buy stock and sell it without 
> > shorting it.  Then when the next buy signal occurs, jump in 
again.  
> > This can be quite useful during trending markets however, it is 
> > practically useless in trendless conditions (I use Dr. John F. 
> Ehlers 
> > Squelch functions to distinguish between trending and trading 
> ranges) 
> > or when the price is consolidating.  One can get whip-sawed and 
> make 
> > several losing trades under these trendless conditions.
> > 
> > This function is inherently a trend-following study.  It 
increases 
> > the stop level each successive day until the 10th day that the 
> market 
> > is still trending.  At this point, it raises the stop level 
> > proportionally daily.  This is due to the observed fact that 10-
day 
> > runs are extremely rare.  These long runs do occur however they 
> only 
> > occur around 5% of the time.  So this works magnificiently in 
> trends 
> > and miserably in congestion or consolidation periods, but works 
> well 
> > when combined with a 3BSMA stop during the initial stages (when 
the 
> > start of the new trend is not yet confirmed and you want a tight 
> stop 
> > just in case the new trend did not start.  Doesn't mean that you 
> were 
> > wrong in trading it, just that sometimes it takes a long time for 
a 
> > new trend to develop and most people don't have the guts to buy 
> when 
> > everybody else is selling and sell when everybody else is buying 
> and 
> > that is one of the reason most traders lose and ofcourse they may 
> > also lack patience and also adequate capitalization, money-
> management 
> > (PositionSize, MaxOpenPos, MaxRisk, PositionScore etc.,))
> > 
> > Any feedback appreciated.  TIA.
> > 
> > rgds, Pal


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