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--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:
> Crikey mate, dya really think we could do this. Streuth, flame the
bloomin'
> crows, what a bonza idea.
>
> Cheers,
> Graham
> http://groups.msn.com/asxsharetrading
> http://groups.msn.com/fmsaustralia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jtelang [mailto:jtelang@x...]
> Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2003 10:49 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: "YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ... I think not.
>
>
> Why don't you guys just start using real (American) english as your
> primary tongue instead of using such silly slangs? In fact, you
might
> want to go one level deeper and go Texan, and all y'all might learn
a
> thing or two about the language.
>
> I can see the Britons pulling their guns out now... :-)
>
> Jitu
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gerard_carey" <gcfinance@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > "Speckled and Noisy" eh?
> > And refering to my post.
> >
> > Are you calling me a Drongo?
> >
> > Now listen here cobber,
> > MY 'SPANGLED' DRONGO CAN WHIP YOUR 'SPECKLED' DRONGO ANYDAY
> >
> > So there.
> >
> > Regds Gerard
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Now you have my curiosity. Being a downunder Ozzie I checked my
> > Ozzie
> > > encyclopaedia.
> > >
> > > Speckled Drongo - " and is active and noisy - perhaps the reason
> > for its use
> > > as a term of derision in Australian slang"
> > >
> > > Another reference suggests the term comes from the name of the
> > unsuccessful
> > > racehorse in the 1920's
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Graham
> > > http://groups.msn.com/asxsharetrading
> > > http://groups.msn.com/fmsaustralia
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gerard Carey [mailto:gcfinance@x...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2003 7:59 AM
> > > To: AB Yahoo group
> > > Subject: [amibroker] "YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ... I think not.
> > >
> > >
> > > In reply to Perry Lentine's query (53518) as to the meaning of
> the
> > term
> > > "Drongo", I would acknowledge the helpful contributions from
Paul
> > Chivers
> > > (53521) and the always informative Dimitris, Pass the Rosetta
> Stone,
> > > Tsokakis (53527) in the "AmiBroker or Metastock ?" thread.
> > >
> > > I feel however that the waters have been somewhat muddied by the
> > plethora of
> > > information supplied so it is my intention, indeed my duty, as
> the
> > original
> > > user of the term (53511), to clarify the situation.
> > >
> > > It is my contention that Drongo, in the sense that I used it,
is
> an
> > > Australia slang term used to describe a 'fool', a 'stupid
> person', a
> > > 'simpleton'.
> > >
> > > Yes there is indeed a bird called a Drongo as confirmed by Paul
> and
> > > Dimitris.
> > > A short explananation would, and indeed does, state that the
> > Spangled Drongo
> > > is found in northern and eastern Australia, as well as in the
> > islands to the
> > > north of Australia, and further north to India and China. It is
> > called a
> > > Drongo because that is the name of a bird from the same family
in
> > northern
> > > Madagascar.
> > >
> > > It has been suggested that the origin of the association, by
> > Austalians, of
> > > 'stupidity' with the term Drongo, comes from the fact that the
> bird
> > appears
> > > to migrate to colder regions in winter. I am unable to verify
> > this 'origin
> > > of association' and who really cares about the migratory habits
> of
> > the
> > > aforesaid bird. Stuff it I say.
> > >
> > > Before attempting to proffer the generally held Antipodean
theory
> > regarding
> > > the "Drongo-Stupidity" association I would offer the following
> > fieldwork
> > > report for your perusal.
> > >
> > > In eavesdropping on Australians in conversational mode I have
> not,
> > as yet,
> > > heard the expression,
> > >
> > > "YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ........used.
> > > Almost without exception the prefered expression is,
> > > "YOU BLOODY DRONGO!".
> > >
> > > This expression is delivered in either of two ways;
> > > 1. In an agitated manner in a high volume and pitch and often
> > accompanied by
> > > the agitated waving of hands and threats of violence.
> > > My belief is that this delivery signifies anger.
> > > 2. In an exasperated manner in a low volume and pitch and
> > accompanied by the
> > > slow shaking of the head from side to side.
> > > My belief is that this delivery signifies frustration.
> > >
> > > Now, my further research, of a more clinical nature, finds thats
> > there was
> > > an Australian racehorse named Drongo (presumably after the
> > aforesaid bird),
> > > racing during the early 1920s.
> > > He was a bay horse by Lanius-Lys d'Or, and, according to the
> > Australasian
> > > Turf Register, he had 5 starts in 923, 15 starts in 1924, and 17
> > starts in
> > > 1925.
> > >
> > > In 1924 a writer in the Melbourne Argus comments:
> > > "Drongo is sure to be a very hard horse to beat. He is
improving
> > with every
> > > run".
> > > In all, Drongo competed in 37 races.
> > > He never did win.
> > >
> > > Soon after the horse's retirement it seems that racegoers
started
> > to apply
> > > the term to horses that were having similarly unlucky careers.
It
> > appears
> > > that the term gradually became more negative, perhaps helped by
> > Cartoonist
> > > Sammy Wells, then of the Melbourne "Herald", who apparently
> adopted
> > Drongo
> > > as a character in his political and sporting cartoons. In these
> > cartoons
> > > Drongo was the no-hoper in any and every situation. and was
> applied
> > also to
> > > people who were not so much 'unlucky' as 'hopeless cases' , 'no-
> > hopers', and
> > > thereafter 'fools'.
> > >
> > > I would also note reports that in the 1940s it was applied to
> > recruits in
> > > the Royal Australian Air Force, but the Aussies will only get
mad
> > at us if
> > > we spread that kind of inuendo so we better shut up about it.
> > Forget that
> > > you read this paragraph.
> > >
> > > Buzz Kennedy, writing in "The Australian" newspaper in 1977,
> > defines a
> > > drongo thus:
> > > "A drongo is a simpleton but a complicated one: he is a
simpleton
> > of the
> > > sort who not only falls over his feet but does so at Government
> > House; who
> > > asks his future mother-in-law to pass "the-magic-word" salt the
> > first time
> > > the girl asks him home.... In an emergency he runs heroically in
> > the wrong
> > > direction. If he were Superman he would get locked in the
> telephone
> > box. He
> > > never wins. So he is a drongo".
> > >
> > > The origin of the term was revived at the Melbourne racecourse
> > Flemington in
> > > 1977 when a Drongo Handicap was held. Only apprentice jockeys
> were
> > allowed
> > > to ride. The horses entered were not allowed to have won a race
> in
> > the
> > > previous twelve months.
> > >
> > > I DON'T WANT TO LET THE TRUTH GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY
BUT,
> > > As it happens he wasn't an absolute no-hoper of a racehorse.
> > > He ran second in a VRC Derby and St Leger, third in the AJC St
> > Leger, and
> > > fifth in the 1924 Sydney Cup.
> > > He often came very close to winning major races.
> > > But he never won a race.
> > >
> > > I guess there's a moral here somewhere?
> > > If you find it let me know,
> > >
> > > Regds Gerard
> > > Ps. I'm not an Aussie. I just live here.
> > >
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