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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: jtelang
[mailto:jtelang@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: December 4, 2003 10:49
AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] Re:
"YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ... I think not.Why don't you
guys just start using real (American) english as your primary tongue
instead of using such silly slangs? In fact, you might want to go one
level deeper and go Texan, and all y'all might learn a thing or two about
the language.I can see the Britons pulling their guns out now...
:-)Jitu--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gerard_carey"
<gcfinance@xxxx> wrote:> "Speckled and Noisy" eh?> And
refering to my post.> > Are you calling me a Drongo?>
> Now listen here cobber,> MY 'SPANGLED' DRONGO CAN WHIP YOUR
'SPECKLED' DRONGO ANYDAY> > So there.> > Regds
Gerard > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham"
<gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:> > Now you have my curiosity. Being a
downunder Ozzie I checked my > Ozzie> >
encyclopaedia.> > > > Speckled Drongo - " and is active
and noisy - perhaps the reason > for its use> > as a term of
derision in Australian slang" > > > > Another reference
suggests the term comes from the name of the > unsuccessful>
> racehorse in the 1920's> > > > Cheers,> >
Graham> > <A
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> > > > -----Original Message-----> > From:
Gerard Carey [mailto:gcfinance@xxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, 4 December
2003 7:59 AM> > To: AB Yahoo group> > Subject: [amibroker]
"YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ... I think not.> > > > >
> In reply to Perry Lentine's query (53518) as to the meaning of the
> term> > "Drongo", I would acknowledge the helpful
contributions from Paul > Chivers> > (53521) and the always
informative Dimitris, Pass the Rosetta Stone,> > Tsokakis
(53527) in the "AmiBroker or Metastock ?" thread. > > > >
I feel however that the waters have been somewhat muddied by the >
plethora of> > information supplied so it is my intention, indeed my
duty, as the > original> > user of the term (53511), to
clarify the situation.> > > > It is my contention that
Drongo, in the sense that I used it, is an> > Australia
slang term used to describe a 'fool', a 'stupid person', a> >
'simpleton'. > > > > Yes there is indeed a bird called a
Drongo as confirmed by Paul and> > Dimitris. > > A
short explananation would, and indeed does, state that the > Spangled
Drongo> > is found in northern and eastern Australia, as well as in
the > islands to the> > north of Australia, and further north
to India and China. It is > called a> > Drongo because that
is the name of a bird from the same family in > northern> >
Madagascar. > > > > It has been suggested that the origin
of the association, by > Austalians, of> > 'stupidity' with
the term Drongo, comes from the fact that the bird >
appears> > to migrate to colder regions in winter. I am unable to
verify > this 'origin> > of association' and who really cares
about the migratory habits of > the> > aforesaid bird.
Stuff it I say.> > > > Before attempting to proffer the
generally held Antipodean theory > regarding> > the
"Drongo-Stupidity" association I would offer the following >
fieldwork> > report for your perusal.> > > > In
eavesdropping on Australians in conversational mode I have not, >
as yet,> > heard the expression,> > > > "YOU
SPANGLED DRONGO!" ........used.> > Almost without exception the
prefered expression is,> > "YOU BLOODY DRONGO!".> >
> > This expression is delivered in either of two ways;> >
1. In an agitated manner in a high volume and pitch and often >
accompanied by> > the agitated waving of hands and threats of
violence. > > My belief is that this delivery signifies
anger.> > 2. In an exasperated manner in a low volume and pitch and
> accompanied by the> > slow shaking of the head from side to
side. > > My belief is that this delivery signifies frustration.
> > > > Now, my further research, of a more clinical
nature, finds thats > there was> > an Australian racehorse
named Drongo (presumably after the > aforesaid bird),> >
racing during the early 1920s. > > He was a bay horse by Lanius-Lys
d'Or, and, according to the > Australasian> > Turf Register,
he had 5 starts in 923, 15 starts in 1924, and 17 > starts in>
> 1925.> > > > In 1924 a writer in the Melbourne Argus
comments: > > "Drongo is sure to be a very hard horse to beat. He is
improving > with every> > run". > > In all, Drongo
competed in 37 races. > > He never did win. > > >
> Soon after the horse's retirement it seems that racegoers started
> to apply> > the term to horses that were having similarly
unlucky careers. It > appears> > that the term gradually
became more negative, perhaps helped by > Cartoonist> > Sammy
Wells, then of the Melbourne "Herald", who apparently adopted >
Drongo> > as a character in his political and sporting cartoons. In
these > cartoons> > Drongo was the no-hoper in any and every
situation. and was applied > also to> > people who were
not so much 'unlucky' as 'hopeless cases' , 'no-> hopers', and>
> thereafter 'fools'.> > > > I would also note reports
that in the 1940s it was applied to > recruits in> > the
Royal Australian Air Force, but the Aussies will only get mad > at us
if> > we spread that kind of inuendo so we better shut up about it.
> Forget that> > you read this paragraph.> >
> > Buzz Kennedy, writing in "The Australian" newspaper in 1977,
> defines a> > drongo thus: > > "A drongo is a
simpleton but a complicated one: he is a simpleton > of the>
> sort who not only falls over his feet but does so at Government >
House; who> > asks his future mother-in-law to pass "the-magic-word"
salt the > first time> > the girl asks him home.... In an
emergency he runs heroically in > the wrong> > direction. If
he were Superman he would get locked in the telephone > box.
He> > never wins. So he is a drongo". > > > >
The origin of the term was revived at the Melbourne racecourse >
Flemington in> > 1977 when a Drongo Handicap was held. Only
apprentice jockeys were > allowed> > to ride. The horses
entered were not allowed to have won a race in > the> >
previous twelve months.> > > > I DON'T WANT TO LET THE
TRUTH GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY BUT, > > As it happens he
wasn't an absolute no-hoper of a racehorse. > > He ran second in a
VRC Derby and St Leger, third in the AJC St > Leger, and> >
fifth in the 1924 Sydney Cup. > > He often came very close to
winning major races.> > But he never won a race. > >
> > I guess there's a moral here somewhere?> > If you find
it let me know,> > > > Regds Gerard> > Ps. I'm
not an Aussie. I just live here.> > > > -- > >
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