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Crikey mate, dya really think we could do this. Streuth, flame the bloomin'
crows, what a bonza idea.
Cheers,
Graham
http://groups.msn.com/asxsharetrading
http://groups.msn.com/fmsaustralia
-----Original Message-----
From: jtelang [mailto:jtelang@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2003 10:49 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re: "YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ... I think not.
Why don't you guys just start using real (American) english as your
primary tongue instead of using such silly slangs? In fact, you might
want to go one level deeper and go Texan, and all y'all might learn a
thing or two about the language.
I can see the Britons pulling their guns out now... :-)
Jitu
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gerard_carey" <gcfinance@xxxx>
wrote:
> "Speckled and Noisy" eh?
> And refering to my post.
>
> Are you calling me a Drongo?
>
> Now listen here cobber,
> MY 'SPANGLED' DRONGO CAN WHIP YOUR 'SPECKLED' DRONGO ANYDAY
>
> So there.
>
> Regds Gerard
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Graham" <gkavanagh@xxxx> wrote:
> > Now you have my curiosity. Being a downunder Ozzie I checked my
> Ozzie
> > encyclopaedia.
> >
> > Speckled Drongo - " and is active and noisy - perhaps the reason
> for its use
> > as a term of derision in Australian slang"
> >
> > Another reference suggests the term comes from the name of the
> unsuccessful
> > racehorse in the 1920's
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Graham
> > http://groups.msn.com/asxsharetrading
> > http://groups.msn.com/fmsaustralia
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gerard Carey [mailto:gcfinance@x...]
> > Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2003 7:59 AM
> > To: AB Yahoo group
> > Subject: [amibroker] "YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ... I think not.
> >
> >
> > In reply to Perry Lentine's query (53518) as to the meaning of
the
> term
> > "Drongo", I would acknowledge the helpful contributions from Paul
> Chivers
> > (53521) and the always informative Dimitris, Pass the Rosetta
Stone,
> > Tsokakis (53527) in the "AmiBroker or Metastock ?" thread.
> >
> > I feel however that the waters have been somewhat muddied by the
> plethora of
> > information supplied so it is my intention, indeed my duty, as
the
> original
> > user of the term (53511), to clarify the situation.
> >
> > It is my contention that Drongo, in the sense that I used it, is
an
> > Australia slang term used to describe a 'fool', a 'stupid
person', a
> > 'simpleton'.
> >
> > Yes there is indeed a bird called a Drongo as confirmed by Paul
and
> > Dimitris.
> > A short explananation would, and indeed does, state that the
> Spangled Drongo
> > is found in northern and eastern Australia, as well as in the
> islands to the
> > north of Australia, and further north to India and China. It is
> called a
> > Drongo because that is the name of a bird from the same family in
> northern
> > Madagascar.
> >
> > It has been suggested that the origin of the association, by
> Austalians, of
> > 'stupidity' with the term Drongo, comes from the fact that the
bird
> appears
> > to migrate to colder regions in winter. I am unable to verify
> this 'origin
> > of association' and who really cares about the migratory habits
of
> the
> > aforesaid bird. Stuff it I say.
> >
> > Before attempting to proffer the generally held Antipodean theory
> regarding
> > the "Drongo-Stupidity" association I would offer the following
> fieldwork
> > report for your perusal.
> >
> > In eavesdropping on Australians in conversational mode I have
not,
> as yet,
> > heard the expression,
> >
> > "YOU SPANGLED DRONGO!" ........used.
> > Almost without exception the prefered expression is,
> > "YOU BLOODY DRONGO!".
> >
> > This expression is delivered in either of two ways;
> > 1. In an agitated manner in a high volume and pitch and often
> accompanied by
> > the agitated waving of hands and threats of violence.
> > My belief is that this delivery signifies anger.
> > 2. In an exasperated manner in a low volume and pitch and
> accompanied by the
> > slow shaking of the head from side to side.
> > My belief is that this delivery signifies frustration.
> >
> > Now, my further research, of a more clinical nature, finds thats
> there was
> > an Australian racehorse named Drongo (presumably after the
> aforesaid bird),
> > racing during the early 1920s.
> > He was a bay horse by Lanius-Lys d'Or, and, according to the
> Australasian
> > Turf Register, he had 5 starts in 923, 15 starts in 1924, and 17
> starts in
> > 1925.
> >
> > In 1924 a writer in the Melbourne Argus comments:
> > "Drongo is sure to be a very hard horse to beat. He is improving
> with every
> > run".
> > In all, Drongo competed in 37 races.
> > He never did win.
> >
> > Soon after the horse's retirement it seems that racegoers started
> to apply
> > the term to horses that were having similarly unlucky careers. It
> appears
> > that the term gradually became more negative, perhaps helped by
> Cartoonist
> > Sammy Wells, then of the Melbourne "Herald", who apparently
adopted
> Drongo
> > as a character in his political and sporting cartoons. In these
> cartoons
> > Drongo was the no-hoper in any and every situation. and was
applied
> also to
> > people who were not so much 'unlucky' as 'hopeless cases' , 'no-
> hopers', and
> > thereafter 'fools'.
> >
> > I would also note reports that in the 1940s it was applied to
> recruits in
> > the Royal Australian Air Force, but the Aussies will only get mad
> at us if
> > we spread that kind of inuendo so we better shut up about it.
> Forget that
> > you read this paragraph.
> >
> > Buzz Kennedy, writing in "The Australian" newspaper in 1977,
> defines a
> > drongo thus:
> > "A drongo is a simpleton but a complicated one: he is a simpleton
> of the
> > sort who not only falls over his feet but does so at Government
> House; who
> > asks his future mother-in-law to pass "the-magic-word" salt the
> first time
> > the girl asks him home.... In an emergency he runs heroically in
> the wrong
> > direction. If he were Superman he would get locked in the
telephone
> box. He
> > never wins. So he is a drongo".
> >
> > The origin of the term was revived at the Melbourne racecourse
> Flemington in
> > 1977 when a Drongo Handicap was held. Only apprentice jockeys
were
> allowed
> > to ride. The horses entered were not allowed to have won a race
in
> the
> > previous twelve months.
> >
> > I DON'T WANT TO LET THE TRUTH GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY BUT,
> > As it happens he wasn't an absolute no-hoper of a racehorse.
> > He ran second in a VRC Derby and St Leger, third in the AJC St
> Leger, and
> > fifth in the 1924 Sydney Cup.
> > He often came very close to winning major races.
> > But he never won a race.
> >
> > I guess there's a moral here somewhere?
> > If you find it let me know,
> >
> > Regds Gerard
> > Ps. I'm not an Aussie. I just live here.
> >
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