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"...but surely there are others out there wondering the same thing
and not saying so out of deference to greater expertise."
Well Dave, there is at least one...English is not my mother tongue,
and I miss the vocabulary to put my opinion into words with the
necessary subtlety, or courteousness, to be sure not to hurt
anyone...or to be considered a jurk!
So, thanks for this one!
I keep on backtesting...
Friendly,
Gilles
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dave Merrill" <dmerrill@xxxx>
wrote:
> steve, not only do I assume you've done it, but when you speak
about it as
> you have, I assume we'll like what we see if we do it ourselves --
that's
> why you mentioned it. then I do try it, report results that are
less than
> stellar, and hear, "try this, try that".
>
> I don't mean to offend, or discourage teaching or the sharing of
ideas, not
> at all. but it's one thing to suggest that an idea might be worth
pursuing,
> in combination with a not-completely-specified set of confirming
indicators,
> stops, entrails, etc.. it's quite another to show some great-
looking charts
> and strongly imply that the single indicator shown is profitable in
and of
> itself, or with confirmation from any old trend indicator you might
have
> lying around.
>
> I know I need to do my own homework. I've been doing a great deal
of that,
> don't mind, find it interesting even. I'm just mystified by the
vibe that
> the actual numerical results I get from a system someone else
suggested
> aren't that great because of some problem with the way I approach
life in
> general, like some box I haven't thought my way out of (my
favorite). it's
> not the first time this has happened, so steve, don't take my
reaction
> personally.
>
> please don't misunderstand, I'm trying to learn, not put anyone
down, or
> their ideas. I very much appreciate the offerings from everyone
here,
> especially the more experienced traders and system designers. I
hope people
> will continue to share their ideas, and comment on what gets posted.
>
> I also appreciate everyone's putting up with my ignorance, my
endless
> attempts to test and verify what gets said, and the periodic
intrusions of
> my inner brat, like this one. maybe it falls under the category of
failing
> to shut up if I don't have something nice to say, but surely there
are
> others out there wondering the same thing and not saying so out of
deference
> to greater expertise. or maybe not. maybe everyone but me takes
this ball
> and runs with it, all the way to the bank, while I just continually
miss the
> obvious. either way, hopefully we'll all learn something by talking
about
> it, or at least I will.
>
> dave
> I guess the point is that some, rightly or wrongly, assume you've
> already done this. If that's the case what kind of results have
you
> gotten (CAR, MDD, UI) OOS ? Maybe I'm nuts but to me a Stochastic
> RSI, whether it's coupled with a trend indicator or stops of a
> variety of types etc. is well INSIDE the box.
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CedarCreekTrading"
<kernish@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > Dave,
> >
> > No problem....I'd suggest that you mix and match stops, trend
> identifiers and triggers. I not suggesting that you over-
optimize (a
> rather tired and elusive topic on this forum), but, please think
> outside the box. The important point is: there are certain
momentum
> oscillators that time you into trend retracements that are very
> accurate. Pick one.
> >
> > Then, decide on some type of trend identification. Only take
> trades in that direction.
> >
> > Then, conjure a stop strategy...to protect your position and
> pocketbook.
> >
> > And finally, use something other than a momentum oscillator to
time
> you out. Momentum Oscillators will never capture a good move,
> running in the direction of the trend, without leaving a lot
> of "cheese" on the table.
> >
> > I think you can see that this is a bit different that just
buying
> and selling at the trigger levels. The StoRSI has, and will
always,
> be a very decent timing device to position you into trend
> retracements.
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Steve
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