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RE: [amibroker] Re: AMA vs EMA, malfunctioning brain



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<SPAN 
class=352544212-25102003>hmmm, strange. so the native EMA function has this odd 
initialization behavior that originated in metastock, and AMA doesn't. I take 
that to mean that AMA can't be used to build an array-capable EMA that matches 
the native EMA, right?
<SPAN 
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<SPAN 
class=352544212-25102003>do MACD and other functions that are built on EMAs do 
this too? I wonder what the various web sites and other TA programs 
do.
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<SPAN 
class=352544212-25102003>stephane, if you're watching this, what does 
indicators.dll do?
<SPAN 
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<SPAN 
class=352544212-25102003>dave
<SPAN 
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<BLOCKQUOTE 
>
  See User's Guide
   
  <A 
  href="">http://www.amibroker.com/guide/afl/afl_view.php?name=EMA
   
  Best regards,Tomasz Janeczkoamibroker.com
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  >
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    >From: 
    Dave Merrill 
    
    To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:46 
    PM
    Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AMA vs 
    EMA, malfunctioning brain
    
    <SPAN 
    class=551153110-25102003>oops tomasz, you're correct, careless, and not the 
    first time, truly sorry for that.
    <SPAN 
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    <SPAN 
    class=551153110-25102003>however, I don't think that's the reason that the 
    EMA and AMA versions act differently, even with static numbers. I made the 
    change, and backtest results are still different, but only when either or 
    both of the second two EMAs are replaced by EMAx. the first one doesn't seem 
    to make a difference, at least on the data I tried.
    <SPAN 
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    <SPAN 
    class=551153110-25102003>maybe I'm doing something else carelessly, and I 
    apologize in advance if that's the case, but I don't see 
    it.
    <SPAN 
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    <SPAN 
    class=551153110-25102003>dave
    <SPAN 
    class=551153110-25102003> 
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    >
      You should really check your code twice or more. It is really easy 
      and would save me
      hundreds of hours of answering such basic stuff.
       
      Your formula has simply a basic error:
       
      
      YOUR CODE (wrong):
      ========
      function MACDHistogram() 
      { if(using_arrays) 
       {   m = EMAx(c, 12) - EMAx(c, 26);// MACD 
      line  s = m - 
      EMAx(m, 9); // <--- WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Signal line is 
      simply EMA of MACD. Not MACD - EMA( MACD) !!!!! } 
       else 
       {  m = EMA(c, 12) - EMA(c, 26);  s 
      = m - EMA(m, 9);  // 
      <--- WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Signal line is simply EMA of MACD. Not MACD 
      - EMA( MACD) !!!!! } hist = m - s; // 
      histogram  return hist;}
       
      CORRECTED CODE:
      
      YOUR CODE (wrong):
      ========
      function MACDHistogram() 
      { if(using_arrays) 
       {   m = EMAx(c, 12) - EMAx(c, 26);// MACD 
      line  s =  EMAx(m, 9); // <--- GOOD!   
      Signal line is simply EMA of MACD.  } 
       else 
       {  m = EMA(c, 12) - EMA(c, 26);  s 
      = EMA(m, 9);  <--- GOOD!   Signal line is simply 
      EMA of MACD.  } hist = m - s; // histogram is HERE 
      !!! return hist;}
       
      Best regards,Tomasz Janeczkoamibroker.com
      <BLOCKQUOTE 
      >
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        <DIV 
        >From: 
        Dave 
        Merrill 
        To: <A 
        title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 
        10:18 AM
        Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AMA vs 
        EMA, malfunctioning brain
        
        <SPAN 
        class=993201508-25102003>thanks, I know about that. I just didn't want 
        my auto-optimization stuff to have to depend on that, especially since 
        tj said an AFL equivalent exists.
        <SPAN 
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        <SPAN 
        class=993201508-25102003>any other responses from anyone? 
        tj?
        <SPAN 
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        <SPAN 
        class=993201508-25102003>dave
        <SPAN 
        class=993201508-25102003> 
        <BLOCKQUOTE 
        >dave 
          if you want an EMA with varperiod download indicators.dll and use 
          scEMA(array, varperiod)stephanewrote:> I need a 
          poke in the head...> > I wanted a version of the MACD 
          histogram that can take arrays for its three> parameters. I 
          used the array-capable version of EMA provided by tomasz, 
          but> I'm not getting the same results as with the native EMA 
          function, even with> static numbers as parameters. (I said 
          I was doing this to use arrays, but> since even static 
          numbers don't work right, I used them here for> simplicity.) 
          oddly enough, the results are the same using tomasz's EMAx 
          the> first two times, but using it the third time causes a 
          difference. that's the> one marked with '<<< HERE 
          <<<' below.> > what's wrong with this 
          picture?> > here's the code:> > 
          -----------------> function EMAx(array, period) { // use for 
          EMA when period is an array>       
          return AMA(array, 2 / (period + 1));> }> > 
          function MACDHistogram() {>       
          if(using_arrays) {>       
                m = EMAx(c, 12) - EMAx(c, 26);// MACD 
          line>       
                s = m - EMAx(m, 
          9);            // 
          signal line;       <<< HERE 
          <<<>       } else {> 
                      m = 
          EMA(c, 12) - EMA(c, 26);>       
                s = m - EMA(m, 9);> 
                }> 
                hist = m - 
          s;            
                      // 
          histogram>       return hist;> 
          }> -----------------> > thanks,> > 
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