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Tomasz,
there is another [interesting] point.
MSFT stock would not be attractive at $9.56, back in the great 96
days...
Dimitris Tsokakis
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I would say that way: if there were no splits then the price would
be that high.
> (in theory of course, in practice no one would be buying shares @
$4000 )
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Almond" <steve2@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Amiquote data downloads
>
>
> > Hmmm, I guess I started at the wrong end. I was assuming that
MSFT (started
> > at $28, as your article shows) if unadjusted for splits would now
be $28 *
> > 144 = $4032 .
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > MSFT is STILL at $28 after 17 years! (although we have 144 times
as many
> > shares......).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 09:05
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Amiquote data downloads
> >
> >
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > > If unadjusted prices are now given, will MSFT be a $1000
stock? It
> > doesn't
> > > > seem to be on the Yahoo! pages I see.
> > >
> > > Of course not. Prices downloaded by AmiQuote are the same as
new Yahoo
> > shows.
> > > There is no difference. Just download using AmiQuote and you
will see that
> > there is NO difference for current quote.
> > >
> > > There is NO difference in ***current*** price between
adjusted/unadjusted.
> > >
> > > The difference is for OLD data.
> > >
> > > Unadjusted means that OLD data ( BEFORE SPLIT) -
> > > are left in ORIGINAL levels (exactly as they were traded then).
> > >
> > > Unadjusted are simply ORIGINAL prices, NOT MODIFIED in any way.
> > >
> > > Adjusted historical data are modified.
> > >
> > > From Yahoo help pages:
> > > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/fin/quote/quote-12.html
> > >
> > > Adjusted close provides the closing price for the requested
day, week, or
> > month, adjusted for all applicable splits and dividend
> > > distributions. Data ***prior*** to the split is adjusted using a
> > multiplier determined by the split ratio. Data prior to the
> > > dividend is adjusted using a multiplier based on dividend as a
percentage
> > of price.
> > >
> > > Also from:
> > > http://www.fool.com/foolu/askfoolu/2001/askfoolu010703.htm
> > >
> > > "What may be confusing you is their "split-adjusted" price.
When a stock
> > splits, historical quote services and charts split the past
> > > prices as well so that it doesn't look like the stock just
dropped 50%.
> > Split adjustments are a convenient way to illustrate the
> > > relationship between current price and historical performance,
but they
> > don't give you a true historical price. If a stock has split
> > > a number of times, the initial price can get down to pennies
when split
> > adjusted. But that doesn't mean that it ever actually sold
> > > for pennies.
> > > For example, Microsoft went public on March 13, 1986 and closed
at $28,
> > but the split-adjusted price you will see on a chart or in
> > > historic quotes is $0.19. That's because it has split so often
that a
> > single share purchased on March 13, 1986 would have turned
> > > into 144 shares by today. Cisco has split even more. An
original share of
> > Cisco has turned into 288 shares. The closing price on the
> > > day of Cisco's IPO on February 16, 1990 was $22.25, but the
split-adjusted
> > price was $0.08. Neither Microsoft nor Cisco ever sold
> > > for much less than their IPO prices."
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Almond" <steve2@xxxx>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Amiquote data downloads
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tomasz,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
> > > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 22:29
> > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Amiquote data downloads
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > So called "new" yahoo changed in fact 2 things when it comes
> > > > > to "Download spreadsheet link" that AmiQuote uses:
> > > > > 1. UNADJUSTED quotes are now given (previously were split
adjusted)
> > > > > 2. New column "adj. close" has been added
> > > > >
> > > > > AmiQuote is still at 1.55 but it works OK with 'new Yahoo'
> > > > > with one difference that quotes are now NOT adjusted for
splits.
> > > > >
> > > > > New 'adj. close' column is simply ignored by AQ 1.55.
> > > > > New version of AQ or AmiBroker (I have not yet decided
> > > > > where to handle this) will make the use of 'adj. close'
column.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > > amibroker.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Steve Almond" <steve2@xxxx>
> > > > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:17 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Amiquote data downloads
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Tomasz,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is Amiquote now fully compatible with the "new" Yahoo!
data?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Tomasz Janeczko" <amibroker@xxxx>
> > > > > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 22:06
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Amiquote data downloads
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is no limit in AmiQuote.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the past however it happened that Yahoo blocked
> > > > > > > the person who downloaded too much for 20 minutes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Increasing time between requests to 1 second helps in
such
> > situations.
> > > > > > > see http://www.amibroker.com/troubleshooting.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > > > > amibroker.com
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "garyhw_98" <garyhw_98@xxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:38 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Amiquote data downloads
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am thinking of purhasing a licenses for AmiQuote.
Before I
> > do, I
> > > > > > > > have a few questions. Is there a limit on the number
of stocks
> > you
> > > > > > > > can download? And, Is their a limit on the time
period? In
> > essence
> > > > > > > > can you down load price and volume figures for every
stock in
> > the
> > > > > > > > NYSE, NASDAQ and AMEX stock over the past 5 years?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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