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Chuck,
No problem...
I'll make sure that you don't step on Fred's toes...
But I'm done for the night here in the Central Time Zone of the U.S.
Talk to y'all tomorrow.
Phsst
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck Rademacher"
<chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:
> Phsst...
>
> I'm happy to help you as long as I don't step on Fred's toes.
>
> I'm going to post one of my scoring files and a graph of the equity
curve
> tonight. Those items should help to get you started. It's like
anything
> else. Once you've done it once, you'll wonder what you put it off.
IMO,
> there are two issues. The first one is to get it to work...
getting all of
> the files in the right place. It's well documented, as long as you
look at
> the docs. Fred did what I like to see in any software of this
type. He
> supplied it with a sample. Just click, run and look at results.
Then,
> perhaps, optimize it a bit. Finally, remove about five lines of
code and
> replace it with your own and repeat the process. In a basic
system, there
> are really only five lines of (carefully planned) code.
>
> So, let's go...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phsst [mailto:phsst@x...]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:46 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Random selection of stocks
>
>
> Fred,
>
> I suspect that only you and Chuck REALLY understand the capabilities
> of PT.
>
> Would you be willing to act as a guide where PT is concerned? The
> reason I ask is that I have been conditioned by multiple decades of
> experience (habit) of solving problems on my own. BUT I'd like to see
> PT in action from the eyes of the developer.
>
> This might require you to either take control or share control of the
> project. At the very least, you will need to guide me in specifying
> filtering and scoring requirements. I suspect that PTxxxx can be an
> intimidating obstacle for a non-technical user, and I am not qualified
> to take the lead on this. And you will probably need to excercise a
> 'super-human' level of patience or flexability in dealing with
> conceptual issues.
>
> In addition to the above, I am sometimes 'slow as Christmas' in
> progressing to the next step of a project, which I guarentee will
> drive you crazy.
>
> In other words, trying to get you and I coordinated on something will
> be like trying to mix Oil and Water. And while not impossible, the
> odds are against this working.
>
> But if you are interested in making the effort, then so am I.
>
> Phsst
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxx> wrote:
> > Phsst,
> >
> > Again ... I really am NOT pushing a product ... but this is what PT
> > was made for i.e. to filter or more appropriately SCORE and
trade the
> > high scorers.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Phsst" <phsst@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Hello Chuck,
> > >
> > > I think in the same terms that you expressed regarding using
filters
> > > against a full blown database to narrow down selections. That
> > approach
> > > does not necessarily translate into 'holy grailism' as
expressed by
> > Yuki.
> > >
> > > But from Yuki's post about trading only 5 stocks, I concluded that
> > > there surely must be a great potential benefit from being so
> > > intimately familiar with a small number of highly liquid
stocks that
> > > you can see their charts in your sleep. You should be able to
> > develop
> > > superior instincts regarding support/resistance/volume
> > relationships.
> > > So I'd like to take a shot at that approach too. I don't have to
> > > abondon one trading system for another. What is the old saying...
> > > variety is the spice of life.
> > >
> > > So now I'll spend a few days filtering down to my target
basket, and
> > > then start applying some rules to trading them to see what shakes.
> > >
> > > A new quest...
> > >
> > > Phsst
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck Rademacher"
> > > <chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:
> > > > I wasn't going to reply to Yuki's comment about "looking for
> > things that
> > > > work across a random selection of stocks is a waste of
time", but
> > > Fred has
> > > > sort of got me motivated to do so.
> > > >
> > > > I understand why Yuki made the statement, but I prefer to do the
> > > filtering
> > > > process (that she is manually doing) within my trading system.
> > > Yuki, what
> > > > makes you select certain stocks for trading? You don't need to
> > > answer that
> > > > question, but I feel that whatever anyone does to create a
> > watchlist can
> > > > become part of the AFL code. By doing it as part of the
trading
> > > system,
> > > > stocks will come into and go out of the list, without my
> > > intervention, for
> > > > backtesting and for trading forward. When a stock no
longer has
> > that
> > > > "look" that I like, it will just disappear from my list of
orders
> > to
> > > place.
> > > >
> > > > Just my three cents.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Fred [mailto:fctonetti@x...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:20 AM
> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Please send unmarked bills, in a brown
> > > paper bag,
> > > > to: ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure I agree with the statement that "looking for
> > things that
> > > > work across a random selection of stocks is a waste of time".
> > > >
> > > > Part of the process that makes this viable i.e. reduces random
> > > > selection to specific tradables can of course be a
> > scoring/ranking
> > > > ranking.
> > > >
> > > > When properly applied this too works.
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Yuki Taga <yukitaga@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Fred,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thursday, July 17, 2003, 12:16:45 PM, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > F> If we had a system and it was only good enough to trade
> > the S&P
> > > > > F> wouldn't that be sufficient whether that was in the
form of
> > > > > F> EMini's, Options, ETF's or what have you ? Does any
> > particular
> > > > > F> system have to work across a basket of whatever to be
> > viable ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Absolutely, it is not necessary. I am making hay, lots of
> > hay,
> > > > > trading the same 5 stocks over and over according to a
> > system. They
> > > > > have made money with this system as far back as I can test.
> > They
> > > > > continue to make money. Other stocks break even with the
> > system. I
> > > > > don't know why. I don't really care either. I will
continue
> > to
> > > > > trade the 5. Someday they may stop working. On the other
> > hand,
> > > > they
> > > > > may not, as I can't find a significant time frame where they
> > > > haven't.
> > > > > But if they do, I'll look around for something else that
> > works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking for something that works across a "random basket of
> > stocks"
> > > > > is A) a waste of time in my opinion, because B) it makes you
> > Pope of
> > > > > The Universal Church of Holy Grailism, which kicked me out
> > years ago
> > > > > for heresy. ^^_^^
> > > > >
> > > > > Yuki
> > > >
> > > >
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