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Chuck,

Sorry for the confusion ... That was a tilde " ~ " in front of the 4% 
not a minus sign ... as in about 4%.

Fred

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck Rademacher" 
<chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:
> You mentioned -4% return per month.   Was that a typing error?  I 
assume you
> meant a positve 4%?
> 
> Not much required in the way of volunteering except some 
suggestions from
> time to time as to how best to code some logic.   Regarding 
drawdowns,
> anything more than 2% peak-to-trough is outside of expectations of 
those
> investing in the funds I manage.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Fred [mailto:fctonetti@x...]
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:26 PM
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: (More) Real World Trading
> 
> 
>   Chuck,
> 
>   At ~4% a month you are starting to get to the territory that I 
could
>   get interested, especially if dd's are very low but before I
>   volunteer, what direction of investigation etc. would you like to
>   take a joint or group development effort into ?
> 
>   Fred
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck Rademacher"
>   <chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:
>   > You may recall that I have been making a concerted effort to 
come
>   up with
>   > some system ideas using "pairs trading".   I don't know how
>   successful any
>   > of you have been at coming up with systems for shorting stocks, 
but
>   I am
>   > extremely frustrated by the need to maintain a dollar and/or 
beta
>   neutral
>   > portfolio in keeping with the rules of the funds that I 
manage.  As
>   a rule,
>   > my short trades are lucky to break even.  Fortunately, my long
>   trades are
>   > quite profitable.
>   >
>   > I am going to put forth some ideas that should have been more
>   obvious to me
>   > some time ago and may already be obvious to you.   Like a lot of
>   you, I have
>   > what I think are excellent systems for trading the long side.  I
>   also have
>   > excellent systems for trading "pairs".   My pairs trading has 
been
>   100%
>   > isolated from the other styles of trading that I do.
>   >
>   > My daily search for pairs to trade never really had a starting 
point
>   > (watchlist).   The system takes each of the currently active 
stocks
>   (8,000+)
>   > and tries to find another stock to trade against it.   There 
was no
>   starting
>   > bias.   The system looks for the most highly correlated pairs of
>   stocks to
>   > trade; one long and one short.
>   >
>   > Late yesterday, I had a thought come to me to take the just the 
buy
>   signals
>   > generated by my best "long" system and only look for a pair to
>   trade against
>   > each of those.  It's early days in the research, but it looks 
like
>   an
>   > exceptionally good idea.   Instead of making a mediocre 1.5 to 
2%
>   per month,
>   > the research suggests almost doubling that return while still
>   maintaining a
>   > dollar, beta, sector and volatility neutral stance.
>   >
>   > Any comments would be appreciated and I'd be happy to work 
closely
>   with
>   > anyone interested in pursuing this endeavour.   AmiBroker is
>   definitely the
>   > tool of choice for this job, hence my posting to this group.
>   >
>   > Cheers
> 
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