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course it was a tilde, I can see it now.   I should invest some of my 
trading profits in a pair of glasses.   
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Fred 
  [mailto:fctonetti@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:28 
  PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] Re: 
  (More) Real World Trading (for 
  Fred)Chuck,Sorry for the confusion ... That 
  was a tilde " ~ " in front of the 4% not a minus sign ... as in about 
  4%.Fred--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck Rademacher" 
  <chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:> You mentioned -4% return per 
  month.   Was that a typing error?  I assume you> 
  meant a positve 4%?> > Not much required in the way of 
  volunteering except some suggestions from> time to time as to how 
  best to code some logic.   Regarding drawdowns,> anything 
  more than 2% peak-to-trough is outside of expectations of those> 
  investing in the funds I manage.>   -----Original 
  Message----->   From: Fred 
  [mailto:fctonetti@xxxx]>   Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:26 
  PM>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   
  Subject: [amibroker] Re: (More) Real World Trading> > 
  >   Chuck,> >   At ~4% a month you 
  are starting to get to the territory that I could>   get 
  interested, especially if dd's are very low but before I>   
  volunteer, what direction of investigation etc. would you like 
  to>   take a joint or group development effort into ?> 
  >   Fred> > > >   --- 
  In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck Rademacher">   
  <chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:>   > You may recall that 
  I have been making a concerted effort to come>   up 
  with>   > some system ideas using "pairs 
  trading".   I don't know how>   successful 
  any>   > of you have been at coming up with systems for 
  shorting stocks, but>   I am>   > 
  extremely frustrated by the need to maintain a dollar and/or 
  beta>   neutral>   > portfolio in 
  keeping with the rules of the funds that I manage.  
  As>   a rule,>   > my short trades are 
  lucky to break even.  Fortunately, my long>   trades 
  are>   > quite profitable.>   
  >>   > I am going to put forth some ideas that should 
  have been more>   obvious to me>   > some 
  time ago and may already be obvious to you.   Like a lot 
  of>   you, I have>   > what I think are 
  excellent systems for trading the long side.  I>   also 
  have>   > excellent systems for trading 
  "pairs".   My pairs trading has been>   
  100%>   > isolated from the other styles of trading that I 
  do.>   >>   > My daily search for 
  pairs to trade never really had a starting point>   > 
  (watchlist).   The system takes each of the currently active 
  stocks>   (8,000+)>   > and tries to 
  find another stock to trade against it.   There was 
  no>   starting>   > bias.   The 
  system looks for the most highly correlated pairs of>   
  stocks to>   > trade; one long and one 
  short.>   >>   > Late yesterday, I had 
  a thought come to me to take the just the buy>   
  signals>   > generated by my best "long" system and only 
  look for a pair to>   trade against>   > 
  each of those.  It's early days in the research, but it looks 
  like>   an>   > exceptionally good 
  idea.   Instead of making a mediocre 1.5 to 
  2%>   per month,>   > the research 
  suggests almost doubling that return while still>   
  maintaining a>   > dollar, beta, sector and volatility 
  neutral stance.>   >>   > Any comments 
  would be appreciated and I'd be happy to work closely>   
  with>   > anyone interested in pursuing this 
  endeavour.   AmiBroker is>   definitely 
  the>   > tool of choice for this job, hence my posting to 
  this group.>   >>   > Cheers> 
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