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RE: [amibroker] Re: (More) Real World Trading (for nand)



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Where 
can I go to learn more about SSA?
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By the 
way... I did say 8,000+ stocks, but reality there would be far 
fewer.   I do pass all 8,000+ through my filters, but I'm only 
interested in stocks above a certain price and with a minimum turnover, 
etc.
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: nkis22 
  [mailto:nkishor@xxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 5:48 
  PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] Re: 
  (More) Real World TradingHi Chuck,I have 
  often successfully traded one sided DIA-options using thesame pairs idea. 
  The pair I use comes from The Dow Theorythat specifies the relation 
  between TANSPORTATION and DJiAThe critical thing is that the 
  correlation between anypair must be there atleast in theory or some solid 
  reasoningas to why the pair ought to be correlated. With 8000 
  stocksthere would be about 64 million correlated pairs, and somevery 
  stong correlations will appear just by chance. With smaller sets of 
  stocks, I have looked at relatednessvia SSA ( a type of Euclidean 
  distance) analysis thatwill show different clusters. I am going in this 
  directionbut have not developed a system or even done a single trade 
  asyet. I think SSA is better than looking at correlations whichcan be 
  "dishonest" or "spurious" and quite there by chnace. Giveus an example, 
  may age and the price of gasoline is extremelyhighly correlated but 
  meaningless!Interested in your work very 
  much.tianand--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
  "Chuck Rademacher" <chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:> You may 
  recall that I have been making a concerted effort to come up with> 
  some system ideas using "pairs trading".   I don't know how 
  successful any> of you have been at coming up with systems for 
  shorting stocks, but I am> extremely frustrated by the need to 
  maintain a dollar and/or beta neutral> portfolio in keeping with 
  the rules of the funds that I manage.  As a rule,> my short 
  trades are lucky to break even.  Fortunately, my long trades 
  are> quite profitable.> > I am going to put forth some 
  ideas that should have been more obvious to me> some time ago and 
  may already be obvious to you.   Like a lot of you, I 
  have> what I think are excellent systems for trading the long 
  side.  I also have> excellent systems for trading 
  "pairs".   My pairs trading has been 100%> isolated from 
  the other styles of trading that I do.> > My daily search for 
  pairs to trade never really had a starting point> 
  (watchlist).   The system takes each of the currently active stocks 
  (8,000+)> and tries to find another stock to trade against 
  it.   There was no starting> bias.   The system 
  looks for the most highly correlated pairs of stocks to> trade; one 
  long and one short.> > Late yesterday, I had a thought come to 
  me to take the just the buy signals> generated by my best "long" 
  system and only look for a pair to trade against> each of 
  those.  It's early days in the research, but it looks like an> 
  exceptionally good idea.   Instead of making a mediocre 1.5 to 2% 
  per month,> the research suggests almost doubling that return while 
  still maintaining a> dollar, beta, sector and volatility neutral 
  stance.> > Any comments would be appreciated and I'd be happy to 
  work closely with> anyone interested in pursuing this 
  endeavour.   AmiBroker is definitely the> tool of choice 
  for this job, hence my posting to this group.> > 
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