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Re: [amibroker] Re: TESTING THE UNIVERSE ? (for GoSub)



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Gosub, 
 
If I may butt in for just a moment. An "efficient" stock in my mind is one 
that participates in large price moves with very little concurrent movement in 
its volatility. It's not necessarily a low volatility stock; it's the fact that 
the change in price of a stock over a certain period is disproportionately 
higher than its corresponding change in volatility. 
 
Al Venosa
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  gosub283 
  
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  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:26 
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  Subject: [amibroker] Re: TESTING THE 
  UNIVERSE ? (for GoSub)
  Chuck,Thanks again.That Candle 
  height...Candle body thing...I looks like an "efficiency" criteria 
  thatI saw using "average true range vs. time".In other words, you are 
  looking for efficient,low volatility (low atr) 
  markets.Cheers,gosub 283--- In <A 
  href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chuck 
  Rademacher" <<A 
  href="">chuck_rademacher@x> wrote:> I 
  think I approach this problem in a different way.   I agree with 
  you on> all three points (A,B,C) mentioned below.   Why 
  then, you might ask, do I> still want my system to look at all of 
  the stocks in the universe?> > To me the answer is easy.  I 
  don't want to sit down daily, weekly or monthly> and portion the 
  stocks out to nice little groups of "tradeable" and "not> 
  tradeable".   I don't think that I'm smart enough and I surely 
  don't have> the time.> > However, I can write systems 
  that will do all of this for me.   In order for> these 
  systems to do the intended job, however, they need to see all of 
  the> stocks every day.   I let the system decide whether the 
  each stock "appears"> to be tradeable or not.   By 
  letting the system do the deciding, I can be> fishing instead of 
  perusing charts.  I've been trading for 40 years and have> yet 
  to look at a chart to make any sort of trading decision.   I 
  have looked> at charts in order to transfer the look and feel of a 
  chart to my trading> systems, but not for making actual trading 
  decisions.> > So, I'm a single-click trader and I'm trading on 
  behalf of several hedge> funds.   My systems make a 
  single pass through all of the active stocks and> decide which ones 
  to trade and in which direction.   I blindly enter the> 
  orders before the market opens and I'm done (trading) for the 
  day.   I spend> the rest of the day doing research on how 
  to improve my systems.   If the> sun is shining and it's 
  not too windy, I'm fishing!> > >   
  -----Original Message----->   From: gosub283 
  [mailto:gosub283@xxxx]>   Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:28 
  PM>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   
  Subject: [amibroker] TESTING THE UNIVERSE ?> > 
  >   Hi everyone,> >   Please bear 
  with me on this subject because>   it's one which I have not 
  yet found the answer>   and one which I am not an expert. 
  This question is based>   on my current assumptions and is 
  open to comment,>   correction, or debate.> 
  >   (This has been discussed before but, as an 
  onlooker,>   I did not see a solution.)> 
  >   Here it is:> >   What is the 
  point of testing the whole universe>   of stocks with a 
  trading system if it is generally>   understood 
  that..>   A) Some stocks are just not "system" 
  tradeable>   B) Some systems are best suited to certain 
  markets.>   C) Some stocks have unique "personalities" which 
  work>      with some trading techniques but 
  not others.> >   It seems to me that a test of the 
  whole universe will give>   a squewed result because the 
  performance of the system>   will be lowered by the 
  "untradeables" and the ones with>   the "wrong 
  personality".> >   I have written filters which divide 
  up the universe into two>   personality groups.(Good ones on 
  the left...bad ones on the right)>   This has helped to 
  narrow down the basket a little.>   But maybe there's another 
  reason to test the whole universe>   that I m not aware of. 
  Any comments on this ? (for or against)> >   PS: I 
  think the focus should be on devising ways to 
  define>       and catagorize 
  "personalities", then go exploit 
  them.>       (Definately easier said than 
  done) ;-(> >   Cheers,>   
  Gosub283> > > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
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