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George:
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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: george massik
[mailto:gmassik@xxxx]Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:53
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [amibroker]
programing in basic
No offense taken-
OK--glad to. I was trying to keep it brief so that I would not be a pain in
the______. But I guess I only made it worse--
1. I don't understand about "November"
2. I have been using stockcharts.com. I have been a chartist (successfully)
and now what to upgrade and expand. I am looking for software to make my life
easier and be profitable. So-I want to see charts in an automated fashion that
saves me time. I want to be able to ask the program to show me charts of stocks
or etf s that fit the parameters (chart) that I specify and I would like the
learning curve to be as easy as possible in learning how to tell the program
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I subscribe to
the Extra section of stockcharts and a frank comment is that using AB to scan
stocks will not be as fast as using stockcharts on their standard scans.
Thus "making your life" easier may not be achieved if you mean "less effort" and
faster. The big difference will be that stock charts scans are very
limiting and everyone is using the same drop down boxes and same set of
parameters. With Ab you can do the same thing plus you can insert
combinations of conditions, special indicators you have made up yourself oruse
the many that members of this list publish.
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In a word, you
can do MORE with AB and this will be the key to your being
profitable.
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Another issue is
that you must secure a data source while your subscription to stock charts gives
you their data as part of your subscription; No downloading data and storing it
on your computer.
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Your learning
curve will be manageable if you do what others have said in other messages to
you:
Spend the time to
read the User Guide, which you say you have printed out. Esp the tutorial
sections.
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Start simple,
even though your first tendency may be to jump in at a level that exceeds what
you have been doing with stockcharts.
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There are scores
of already built code segments in the "Library" section of the AB site.
You can simply copy and paste into the AA window and run and look at what you
get.
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However, you will
find that you want and need to be familiar with some of the "very basic"
operations of the program. You might copy/paste some complex, unique
formula/system from the Library, but if you can not change the basic plot or
alter some feature, then you will be frustrated.
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As Anthony said,
this list has hundreds of folks willing to help...all you need to do is askwith
enough information so folks can give you an intelligent
response.
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3. Time-- I spend about 4 hours a day trading now and about 3 hours
charting--so I will have to gve some thing up to learn new stuff BUT I am
willing. I will spend at leasst 2-3 hours a day.<FONT color=#0000ff
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I assume trading
is watching your positions, making in/out decisions, etc, while charting is
plotting indicators and doing scans after hours?? This can be done all
with AB. If you work intraday, you will want/need to consider the Real
Time version. Mine uses eSignal and is running all
day.
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4. If it accomplishes my goals-as much as it takes--
5. I tried the oldFasttrack and it worked OK but I became ill and whenI
was better they went to windows and I found stockcharts and I never went back.
However-Idid make money with it.<SPAN
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I use FastTrack
and was one of the early convertees to the windows version (which was full of
bugs originally but now is quite stable and useful). AB reads the FastTrack
database so I use it for my mutual fund work, and TC2000 for my EOD work and
eSignal for intraday work. Lots of subscription costs,
yes.
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Any of your thoughts I appreciate.
I have downloaded the program and printed the manual and intend to start
budgwting time next week. I will give it a good try but I am not a computer
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Try some of the
examples in the tutorial. Try some simple systems from the Library. And
ASK QUESTIONS here if you get stuck. With folks on this list from around
the world, you will usually receive a reply pretty quick no matter when youpost
your question.
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Good
luck,
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<SPAN
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Thanks to all for your time and interest.
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:58:24 -0400 "Ken Close" <<A
href="">closeks@xxxx> writes:
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George: Absolutely no offense but it almost seems like you will geta
complete and helpful set of answers to your questions sometime
<SPAN
class=960415323-30092002>1. in
.November. I am not being flip but each answer seems directed at the
brief questions you pose.
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<SPAN
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objectives, at least in terms of the kind or kinds of trading software you are
looking for?
<SPAN
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wish to devote to its application?
<SPAN
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wish to devote to learning it - to a level which gives you confidence in using
its results to trade your own real money?
<SPAN
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experience with other investment programs with which you can compare
Amibroker?
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If you shared a
little of these kinds of thoughts and asked where people thought Ab fit into
those goals or objectives, then I will bet you could get more complete answers
towards that which you really want to know about.
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I would be glad
to try and help provide some perspective, but only when I know in generalwhat
to provide perspective about.
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<SPAN
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<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: george massik
[mailto:gmassik@xxxx]Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:56
PMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [amibroker]
programing in basic
Thank you BUT--am I going to far?Do I need any of these to use
AB???
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:28:34 -0400 "dingo" <<A
href="">dingo@xxxx> writes:
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<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Just plain Basic was written to run in a DOS like environment.In
other words you can't write Windows type forms. It also has not been
improved in quite a long time.
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<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>RealBasic (<A
href="">http://www.realbasic.com/) is a flavor
develped by Real Software is a multiplatform (Mac, Windows) flavor that
originally had no ability to build windows style forms and was (back around
1997) used primarily for writing very fast dll's. It had the ability to
produce compiled code while Msft's Visual Basic at that time (Version 3) was
very slow and used only interpreted code. I just visited their site
and discovered that they have added forms capability. The fact that
Its Mac and Windows capable is nice althought I don't have any experience
with it to remark on its realiability, etc.
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<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Visual Basic (<A
href="">http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/) is
the 800 lb gorilla of the Basics. Its Msft's flavor and has evolved over the
years to be the hands down favorite of all the varieties of basic.
With well over 1 million copies having been sold it is considered as the
"standard". VB (as it is commonly referred to) comes in several different
configurations and each is targeted at a particular type of developer.
The lower cost versions are targeted at developers of stand-alone apps while
the higher end products are targeted towards the corporate type developer
that write client/server apps, web based apps, etc. The current
release VB.Net is a re-write of the language and represents a sea-change in
the language.
<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
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<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>The above basic (VB) is a stand alone product. Msft decided several
years ago to make a version of basic that they used to provide programming
capability to its Office products (Word, Excel, etc). This version is called
VBA (Visual Basic for Applications). VB (prior to the .Net version) and
VBA are very, very similar and if you know one you should be able to
navigate the other easily.
<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
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<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Does it make a difference? Yes. It really depends on what you
would to accomplish as to which one you might use. Having said that it
is highly likely that VB or VBA would be the likely choice if you want to
write apps that run only in the Windows environment. If you'd
like to discuss this further lets take it off this
board.
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<FONT
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class=493320715-30092002> -----Original
Message-----From: george massik [mailto:gmassik@xxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:29 PMTo:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] programing in
basic
I searched amazon and found
real basic and visual basic--how are thesedifferent fron just plain
Basic and does it make a dirfferenceThank
you________________________________________________________________
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