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Tomasz,

Thanks for the lightspeed reply. This low-end
solution
would be perfect for me, and possibly others. Esignal
is way too expensive for me. What I wanted to know
was, in terms of this real-time snapshot of o,h,l,c,
and bid/ask, would I need to have AMIBroker real-time,
and should I then upgrade immediately, or is the 
plan that the current AMIBroker 4.0 will allow for
this snapshot? (Your effort on AMIBroker makes me
want to pay you something for an upgrade!). I don't
want to be pushy, but what is the current plan to
implement this low-end solution in terms of how and
when?

As far as accuracy goes, from my experience, the datek
streamer is very accurate unless there is some
pathological error in the bid/ask, in which case it's
very obvious that the quote is in error (you'll often
get a bid=0.01, ask=$30 on a $15 stock). The error
usually corrects itself a few minutes later.

Thanks,

Walid


--- Tomasz Janeczko <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> Walid,
> 
> Yes, such snapshots are possible but far from being
> accurate.
> For example Yahoo has the following disclaimer:
> "a real-time quote from a participating institution
> only (Archipelago, Island, Knight) 
> and does not necessarily represent the best bid or
> ask in the marketplace"
> 
> I am thinking on providing some low-end solution for
> people
> who don't want / can not afford full-featured
> streaming real time prices.
> 
> Just please give me some time.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walid Atia" <walid_atia@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: DataBull was: Re: [amibroker] Re:
> Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker.
> 
> 
> > Tomasz,
> > 
> > You may have answered my previous question
> regarding
> > AMIquote--it gives 15 minute delayed snapshots of
> > the most recent quote. But how do I get a
> non-delayed
> > version of the snapshot without resorting to
> > real-time data feed? I know yahoo allows for
> > real-time for a small fee, and brokerages such as
> > datek provide it for free--also medved
> quotetracker
> > can read from it realtime, I believe, and plot
> > from it. For my purposes, and perhaps others, a
> > real-time snapshot of o,h,l,c would suffice and
> > take a lot less memory.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Walid
> > 
> > --- Tomasz Janeczko <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Just one thing I want to add: 
> > > I didn't want to depreciate DataBull program nor
> > > anyone who wrote about it,
> > > but I just wanted to ensure that ACCURATE
> > > information is provided 
> > > to the subscribers of this mailing list.
> > > 
> > > I feel responsible to keep this place a good
> source
> > > of accurate
> > > and useful information and I have to point out
> some
> > > misinterpretations or inaccurrate
> > > information. It is nothing personal.
> > > 
> > > Hope you understand.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: Tomasz Janeczko 
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 2:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: DataBull was: Re: [amibroker] Re:
> > > Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Stefan,
> > > 
> > > In the response to "Emulating eSignal RT via
> > > QuoteTracker"
> > > you wrote:
> > > "If you are willing to settle for 15 minute
> > > delayed intraday bars I
> > > have been beta testing DataBull
> > > (http://www.databull.com/) which 
> > > will run intraday data straight into
> Amibroker"
> > > 
> > > The key words here are "delayed intraday
> bars".
> > > 
> > > DataBull does NOT provide intraday bars. 
> > > 
> > > It provides just the same as Current mode of
> > > AmiQuote does -
> > > snapshots of the most recent quote during the
> day
> > > (15/20 min delayed).
> > > 
> > > Updating this way you are still getting ONE
> bar
> > > per day.
> > > 
> > > By ANY MEANS it can NOT be compared to Real
> Time
> > > or even delayed
> > > intraday feed as eSignal or Quote.com, which
> will
> > > give you 1-minute bars
> > > for example with each bar composed out of real
> > > trade ticks that happened 
> > > during this single minute.
> > > 
> > > I wrote my answer to clear up the confusion.
> > > 
> > > I did that to save people (the subscribers of
> this
> > > list) from wasting time and money
> > > on the program that does NOT provide
> advertised
> > > INTRADAY bars. 
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "sbondorowicz"
> <stefan@xxxx>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:32 PM
> > > Subject: DataBull was: Re: [amibroker] Re:
> > > Emulating eSignal RT via QuoteTracker.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Tomasz
> > > 
> > > If enlightenment is what you want I would
> suggest
> > > you go and see Yoda 
> > > and ask him to tell you about the Force. I am
> not
> > > in the 
> > > enlightenment business. 
> > > 
> > > All I did was mention something I had been
> > > beta-testing because it 
> > > seemed to fill a hole in my data needs and I
> > > thought it might help 
> > > someone else. So whats your problem?
> > > 
> > > Basically I wanted something which I could
> > > schedule to download the 
> > > latest snapshot of some UK data and
> automatically
> > > update Amibroker 
> > > and a couple of other packages. Databull did
> this
> > > for me, so end of 
> > > story.
> > > 
> > > If Amiquote does this fine. I am not getting
> > > involved in a turf war 
> > > for data downloaders. I have no interest in
> RT or
> > > true x minute 
> > > intraday bars only in being able to obtain a
> > > snapshot of the market 
> > > at various times of the day.
> > > 
> > > If you have to be ready with a 2000 word
> > > justification for anything 
> > > posted to this group it would seem that the
> best
> > > course of action 
> > > would be to remain silent.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Stefan
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> > > <amibroker@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Stefan,
> > > > 
> > > > Please enlighten me - as far as I can see
> the
> > > DataBull downloads
> > > > quotes ONLY from Yahoo Finanec servers.
> Exactly
> > > like FREEWARE 
> > > AmiQuote.
> > > > 
> > > > I can not see ANY POSSIBILITY to download
> > > intraday 1-minute or 5-
> > > minute or 15- minute
> > > > BARS in DataBull program.
> > > > 
> > > > Their "intraday" are just snapshots exactly
> like
> 
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