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Re: [amibroker] Re: NDX, Fib time and MACD



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Dimitris:
 
QQQ = NDX/40, so there is no 
difference.
 
As to background information about Fibonacci and how 
to use it, I suggest looking at Robert Miner's "Dynamic Trader" book, as well as 
Fisher's "Fibonacci Applications ... " and Beckman's 
"Powertiming".  There are others, but those will get you a long way down 
the road.  The website that Peter posted previously provides a reasonable 
overview.  If you are mathematically inclined, as I suspect you are, then 
there are websites that have quite a bit on the mathematics 
regarding Fibonacci and Fibonacci-like series (e.g., Lucas), including<A 
href="">http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fib.html and 
<A 
href="">http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/prime/articles/fibonac/index.asp.  
You might also pick up some information from Miner's website <A 
href="">www.dynamictraders.com.  Ifyou 
have specific questions, it would probably be best to contact me 
directly, although I caution you that I consider myself to be a student rather 
than an expert.  In this regard, Karl's credentials in this area are 
impressive, so the board has a real expert in its midst.
 
Bill
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----- Original Message ----- 
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>From: 
DIMITRIS 
TSOKAKIS 
To: <A title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxx 
href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:57 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: NDX, Fib time 
and MACD
Bill,Thank you very much for reply and 
suggestions.If you have the time, can you give me a clear and specific 
example how to get April´s ^NDX low.Where is the beginning of time, 
which price level, why 23% and not 50% or 61.8% etc.Since you deal a 
lot with the subject, we could all benefit from your experience and use 
Amibroker available tools better.In the case you do not have ^NDX data, 
they are available from your Amiquote.Thank you in 
advance.Dimitris Tsokakis--- In amibroker@xxxx, "wavemechanic" 
<wd78@xxxx> wrote:> Dimitris:> > First, for the 
tools that you are using you have to adjust periodicity to the time 
frame.  With these tools, if you are going to analyze long periods of 
time larger periodicity should be used.  It makes no sense to use a 
tool such as Fibonacci time when it is preset at a maximum number that 
cannot reach the end of the move, as well as being relatively insensitive 
at the longer times.  In addition, as you change periodicity (and 
sometimes even markets) you will have to learn what parameters to usefor 
the indicators.  Unfortunately, I do not seem to be able to adjust 
the parameters for two MACD charts independently, so in the attached daily 
example I only show one, but you can check the standard 12/26/9 setting 
versus the one below.  In addition, you will have to learn what 
indicators work best, especially for daily and intraday trading, including 
a number that are not standard in AB.  Also, at least in my 
experience, the lower the periodicity the more refined the Fibonacci and 
similar studies have to become, extending beyond what is currently 
available.  For example, using standard Fibonacci time analysis from 
3/24/00 to 9/1/00 produces a 1.618 time target of 5/22/01 (on 
target).  In practice, one runs a number of such segments and looks 
for time clusters.  Similarly, one can look for price clusters.  
One also needs to be able under some conditions to do the analysis with 
calendar days, not trading days - particularly for Gann studies, which 
have the advantage of being able to project from a single point.  In 
all cases, one looks for price and time to converge in conjunction with 
indicator reinforcement.  When that occurs you are probably at a 
critical point.  This is not a systems approach to trading, but 
rather one based on line-type studies that many find work quite 
well.  > > In your example, there is no attempt to project 
price, just time with a relatively crude study (Fibonacci time study)that 
is mismatched for the periodicity and time frame chosen.  Given time 
and price projections, appropriate use of indicators will help pick out 
the critical point when more than one is present, which is often the 
case.  Most find that they have to spend a fair amount of time 
studying various aspects of this approach, as it is not a cookbook 
approach to trading.  So do not be surprised it you do not succeed 
the first time, especially if all of the required tools are not 
available to you.  The current tools, however, are most probablyOK 
for the type of mutual fund trading that I think Nate does, and the 
previous example is right up those lines.  In that example, Nate 
would have traded 3-4 times during the year and captured a good part 
of the move from 120 to 34.  Not bad.> > Bill> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: 
Dimitris Tsokakis >   To: amibroker@xxxx >   
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 2:35 PM>   Subject: [amibroker] 
NDX, Fib time and MACD> > >   If I begin from 
the March 2000 High, I am quite out of April 2001 low.>   
(27 days and the worse thing is that the next vertical line will be much 
later)>   If I begin from minor Sept 2000 high, I buy 5 days 
before April 2001 low.>   (There is a simple question 
here: Why I have to buy? Shall I buy in any >   Fib 
vertical line?)>   As for MACD, what is the 
proposal?>   Buy at A, sorry, a whipsaw, buy again at B, 
sorry, sell at C, sorry, buy>   again at D and this will 
be your lucky time?>   This is not 
serious.>   In other words, the main problem with MACD is the 
well known>   whipsaws which may cause a great damage, 
especially if you are the type>   of day-trader who would 
risk to buy the day before.>   My question for Fibonacci 
sequences is simple :Where is the begining of>   "time". 
As I read, at a distinct high or law. Is this correct?>   Any 
answer appreciated.>   Best regards>   
Dimitris Tsokakis> 
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