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 John- 
  
FWIW; I wrestled with trying to do the same thing 
with the proposition of using some predictive model which would tell 
me 
if the market was going to either be up or 
down the next day.  My experiences unfortunately matched your 
results.  My conclusion; and this was written over 100 years ago by Dow; is 
that over the short term; prices are random.  Now; that  
doesn't mean that there are not traders who 
have been able to solve this puzzle; and have developed a trading strategy 
with 
a consistent statistical edge; but we will never 
discover the specific details.  I think there was one guy in the 
original 
market wizards book who claimed to have an 
amazingly successful track record short term trading.  Of course there 
were 
no specifics in the article; only that he used 
custom indicators; even an indicator on an indicator.  Unfortunately; that 
doesn't 
help us any.  I would point out that it 
appears you are working with very hi-tech tools and my methods were much 
more 
crude and unsophisticated than your methods.  
I remain baffled but curious. 
  
Chas 
  
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  Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:05 
  AM 
  Subject: [RT] in search of the 
grail 
  
  
  
  Just for amusement, I have 
  been trying to see if I can guess the market close.  Not the exact price, 
  just will it close higher or lower than yesterday.  As I sit here with my 
  three computers, ten monitors, and several years experience trading for a 
  living, I am amazed that I cannot seem to do it with any consistency.  I 
  figure it's about a fifty-fifty shot and by trying everything I can think of, 
  I might get as high as fifty three percent.  I've been using the E-mini 
  close to try it. Honestly, I figured with my experience and technology I would 
  be able to get it right in the high seventy percent range. 
    
    
    
  Anybody on the list care 
  to try it, post their results, and give some clues as to how they do 
  it? 
    
    
    
  Prosper 
    
    
    
  John Gallagher 
   
      
  
    
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