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Re: [RT] crude oil at 13 year high



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That's assuming inflation of course.  Bonds 
hate deflation.  
 
chas
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  Instead of T-Bills, consider TIPS (Treasury Inflation-Protected 
  Securities). No maturities to roll over.RegardsDanGCharles 
  Meyer wrote:
  
    
    

    Cash, (US T-Bills), Gold, or a combo of 
    the two.  Inflation or Deflation?  Keep a ratio chart 
    of cash gold divided by the
    30 year Treasury.  This will show you the 
    daily struggle of the two forces; and which one is currently winning 
    battles. 
     
    Re conspiracy; a famous supreme court justice 
    once said (sorry I don't recall his name) not to mistake a conspiracy 
    for
    what can be ascribed to simple incompetence; 
    and of course there is a lot of that inherent in bureaucracy.
     
    chas  
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      I just finished a book that describes what 
      could happen in a full financial meltdown. It's a novel by James Cook 
      called "Full Faith & Credit". Pretty scary but enlightening 
      reading.
       
      In that vain, could some of you share your 
      strategy for asset protection and profit should such an unwinding happen.I 
      don't have one yet but am beginning the planning and would appreciate the 
      thoughts of others.
       
      Jim
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        This conspiracy stuff has been discussed 
        on this forum going back to the early bubble years in the mid-90's, and 
        back then I subscribed to that theory too.  I also believed that 
        the government was actively involved in propping up the stock market but 
        after seeing what happened to the markets since the bubble popped I no 
        longer believe that either.
         
        I think the questionable economic numbers 
        we get are due mostly, if not completely, to the normal inefficiency and 
        incompetence you get out of any massive bureaucracy.  Doesn't "CPI 
        excluding food and energy" sound a lot like "EPS of xx cents excluding 
        one time charges that recur every quarter"?  How about the headline 
        Labor number we get every month that doesn't include independent 
        contractors or the self-employed?  But there's a Household number 
        that does include that number which is rarely mentioned, however I 
        suspect there are problems with how that number is calculated 
        too.
         
        The other item that argues against any 
        meaningful "cooking of the books" is that these massive government 
        agencies are comprised of people from both parties, albeit mostly 
        democrats.  So it's hard to imagine they could maintain a 
        "cover-up" year after year and through different administrations.  
        This would be especially true for a republican administration since the 
        media would be in an orgasmic frenzy to cover such a story.
         
        I share the longer term negative view on 
        the equity markets being expressed on this forum, but it's not because 
        of any government conspiracy....it's because of what has transpired in 
        previous post-bubble periods and the length of time it took to truly and 
        fully recover from a financial bubble (15-20 years).
         
         
         
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          Hello
           
          this will filter into higher  
          manufacture cost, transportation, and airlines,
          (good  shorts,)
           
          corporate earnings will decrease as cost 
          increase,
          gov  stats on inflation today 
          phony,
           
          payroll employment  
          decreasing,
           
          they are keeping the # nice until 
          elections,
          then will drop the bomb with REAL 
          numbers
          Ben
           







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