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LOL!  My indicators are predicting 
nothing.  If they could, I would never lose or have to use stops.  Why 
in the world do you think I can or am predicting anything.  This has got to 
be a joke!  It is probably what the word predicting means to 
me.
It is most likely a different meaning than 
yours.
This is kind of what predicting means to 
me.
A prediction may be something like.  The 
market will go up tomorrow, next week or what ever. 
Trading may be something like.  I got a buy 
signal, but have no idea what will happen so I will put in a stop and look at 
the charts tommorrow.
 Or maybe for a prediction.  My team will 
win the next game.
 Not a prediction.  My team should win 
the next game, because I think we are better than the other team, but anything 
can happen, so time will tell.
 So yes.  I deffinately fail to see the 
odvious.  Especially when someone else that does not know me, tells me that 
I predict something when I know I don't, never have and never will predict 
anything.  That is just silly.
 My indicators are just swiggily lines on a 
chart, and only a fool would think that they can predict anything.  If you 
or anyone else thinks that just because a swiggily line on a chart turns up or 
down, crosses this or that and it means they are actually predicting something 
in the future, you are just fooling yourself.  I know now why it is easier 
to make money selling to traders than trading.
 This has become a joke.  Saying some 
indicators that I have and use can predict something in the future.
 Maybe too much TV?
 
 
 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  Adrian Pitt 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:20 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
  top
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>RB,
  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2> 
  You 
  fail to see the obvious.  When you take a buy signal based on your 
  indicators you ARE making a prediction.
  End 
  of story...to disagree with this is to stick ones head in the sand and argue 
  semantics.  If you make money
  from 
  your trades on balance, by definition your tools are making an accurate 
  forecast just as you intended them to. 
  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Perhaps not in the narrow sense you <SPAN 
  class=250321708-08032004>may think, but 
  a forecast they are making. I'll leave it to you to work out what that exactly 
  is...but its as plain as the nose on your face :)
  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2> 
  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Cheers,
  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Adrian
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    <FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: RB 
    [mailto:rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 1:43 
    PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] 
    nasdaq and sp500 topTo some people maybe.  
    But, I use indicators etc. and predict nothing.  Ifmy indicators 
    show buy.  I buy.  Nothing to do with me predicting anythingat 
    all.  And that is good.  My opinions and predictions are usually 
    not toogood.  In other words I would be wrong to often.  I 
    like to use charts andlet my indicators etc. do the work.  I leave 
    the predictions to the psycics.As far as taking trades.  I am 
    predicting nothing.  What would make youthink I could or would 
    predict anything?I take the signals, use stops and don't worry about 
    it.Kind of like any bussiness, games or anything in life.  We can't 
    predict ifwe will win, but we can prepare and do our best and hope 
    things work out.Yes, I know Broadway Joe predicted the jets win over the 
    colts.  Somethings can't be explained!  :)  But, most 
    teams prepare and hope for thebest, but can't predict the out 
    come.  If i would have tried, I would have probably predicted the 
    last 5 tops inthe stock market that didn't happen.  LOL!Many 
    others have done this many, many times.I guess some try to 
    predict?  I don't predict anything!----- Original Message 
    -----From: "ClydeLee (swb)" <clydelee@xxxxxxxxxx>To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 3:24 
    PMSubject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 top> You 
    say:>> " I've been following markets for close to 30 years and 
    have never> predicted anything.">> Now personally I 
    think that is a crock.>> Any time you take a trade you are 
    predicting that prices will move in> a direction that will make you a 
    profit or you would not take a trade.>> This concept of not 
    predicting and only reacting to the market is> definitely out of 
    kilter with reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>> Clyde>> 
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    -  - - - - - - - ->>> ----- Original Message 
    -----> From: "RB" <rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 
    6:49 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
    top>>> > Yep.  The word predict has nothing to 
    do with trading.> > If it did we would never need stops or 
    protection.  :)> >  I've been following markets for 
    close to 30 years and have never> predicted> > 
    anything.> >  Just be careful with the ones who claim they 
    can predict, or make a> $1,000> > a day or make 200% a week 
    in trading etc. There are many of those crooks> on> > the 
    net.  If they could do that, they would have more money than  
    Gatesin> 4> > years. Just find out their names and 
    check to see if they are listed as> one> > of the richest 
    peopele in the world.  Odds are they are not even closeto> 
    > being the richest on their block. :)  Most likely not even the 
    richestin> > their own family.  LOL!> >> 
    >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "mr.ira" 
    <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 
    2004 11:39 AM> > Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 top> 
    >> >> > > One can not predict the future with 100% 
    reliability, but one cantrade> > with> > > a very 
    high degree of probability, 80%+.  As for owning the world, not> 
    > with> > > the current liquidity.> > >> 
    > >> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > 
    From: "RB" <rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > Sent: Sunday, March 
    07, 2004 1:41 PM> > > Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
    top> > >> > >> > > > The future 
    can not be predicted period.  If one could, they wouldown> 
    > the> > > > world.  But, since one can't, we are in 
    the same boat. :)  Run don't> > walk> > > > 
    from someone saying this or that predicts this or that.> > > 
    >> > > > ----- Original Message -----> > > 
    > From: "Alex Bell" <alex_bell@xxxxxxx>> > > > To: 
    "profitok" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > > Sent: 
    Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:01 AM> > > > Subject: Re: [RT] 
    nasdaq and sp500 top> > > >> > > >> 
    > > > > Hello Ben,> > > > >> > > 
    > > I  have overlaid it over Wilshire 5000 index portfolio 
    (symbol> WINDX).> > > > > See  
    attached.  As  far  as  I can see (and of course I may 
    be> missing> > > > > smth.)  for the last 
    year the study predicted about 5 tops that> didn't> > > 
    > > occur and suggested no one long (didn't predict any 
    bottom).> > > > >> > > > > Best 
    regards,> > > > >  
    Alex                            
    mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxx> > > > >> > > > 
    >> > > > > Sunday, March 7, 2004, 8:14:26 AM, you 
    wrote:> > > > >> > > > > p> 
    Hello> > > > >> > > > > p> this is 
    my long term trading> > > > > p> it is done on the 
    weekly  bars of the  whilshire 5000> > > > > 
    p> (almost all stocks traded)> > > > >> > 
    > > > p> when the line reaches the top it is a good time to exit 
    your> > > > conservative money  and 401K and 
    IRA> > > > >> > > > > p> right now 
    we are  VERY close to a top  (max upside  
    potentialis> > 250> > > > whilshire  5000 
    points)> > > > >> > > > > p> the 
    chrt is  reduced to a 1/10  of value (current close 11314)> 
    > > > > p> Ben> > > > >> > > 
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