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Re: healthcare was RE: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top



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I believe that it is job choice that is the 
problem.  A friend of ours grand son just graduated from college.  
Major, finance.  He is going to work for a brokerage firm in mergers and 
acquisitions and his starting salary is $150,000 per year and a $50,000 signing 
bonus. 
 
His girl friend graduated with the same degree, top 
of her class and is going to work for the Fed.  Starting salary 
$43,000.  Guess the big bucks are still on Wall Street.  Only the 
names are changed to protect the innocent.  If there are any innocent left 
out there.  
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  >From: 
  Mark Simms 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:40 
PM
  Subject: RE: healthcare was RE: [RT] 
  sp500/nasdaq top
  
  This is 
  interesting....my wife, a healthcare administrator, is going to be graduating 
  with a Masters degree in Healthcare law this May.
  She currently 
  has a nursing degree and several other credentials (Certified Risk Manager, 
  etc), and is only making $59k per year !
  She certainly 
  is not contributing to the high admin costs claimed here, although the 
  directors and VPs for the hospital chain she works for are definitely in the 
  high 6 figures for salary.
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  Given the 
  recent threads about taxes, it is Interesting that a friend of hers, with a 
  degree in Physical Therapy AND an MBA, was working as an administrator for the 
  Doctorate program of Physical Therapy at a prominent college, just recently 
  QUIT her position because her salary in conjunction with her husbands was 
  yielding less than 40% after taxes...ie she was making $55k and bring in $22k. 
  She now joins the legions of post-Enron jobless MBAs albeit she made her 
  decision based on the marginal tax rate imposed upon her family. 
  
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    <FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: EarlA 
    [mailto:earl.a@xxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:43 
    AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
    healthcare was RE: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
    "Tort reform" is espoused as a political solution. The fact is that, 
    while lawyers are abusers of the system (especially some headline cases), 
    they consume a very small portion of that 7% of GDP which goes to healthcare 
    administrative costs. Further, many of the tort reform bills I have seen 
    promoted, fail to adequately compensate the victims of egregious 
    mal-practice. I classify egregious mal-practice differently than the 
    inevitable mistakes made by imperfect humans or even the non-mistakes where 
    the patient can simply not be fixed. The current system encourages cover-up 
    and non-disclosure at every level and that does need to be fixed. However, 
    fixing it involves more than just shutting off the lawyers, it involves 
    opening physician and health care facility performance and complaint records 
    to the public. Under the current system, the entire medical profession does 
    its very best to conceal anything negative. It is therefore nearly 
    impossible for healthcare consumers to make educated judgments regarding the 
    quality of care and likelihood of a favorable outcome.
     
    Earl
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      <DIV 
      >From: 
      Mark 
      Simms 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:45 
      AM
      Subject: healthcare was RE: [RT] 
      sp500/nasdaq top
      
      Earl - re: 
      "..What's obvious is that the healthcare 
      system, currently in private hands, has run amuck.  I don't 
      know what the solution is."
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      Ever 
      consider the fact that lack of tort reform has caused the overhead 
      costs of doctors and hospitals to be exhorbitant ? On top of 
      that, the legal system has made extortion LEGAL by forcing doctor's to 
      settle claims they are not really responsible for.
      My wife has 
      been in the business of settling healthcare claims for years.....I know 
      first-hand what is going on here.
      A frat 
      brother of mine, not the sharpest tool in the shed, is now a millionaire 
      lawyer...all he does is handle mal-med and those stupid personal injury 
      cases that are so bogus.
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      So here's 
      the correct statement:
      "What's 
      obvious is that the LEGAL system in America, currently controlled by the 
      GOVERNMENT, has run amuck and has affected the healthcare provider 
      mechanism PROFOUNDLY"
      "The 
      solution is simple: Tort reform whereby frivolous lawsuits against good 
      doctors result in a significant penalty for the plaintiff if they are 
      dismissed"







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