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 That's the point.  They do pay the 
taxes.  
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  <DIV 
  >From: 
  Rascal 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
  
  The richest 37,000 people in this country have, in 
  aggregate, the same income as the poorest 61,000,000.  Maybe it's OK for 
  them to pay some taxes.
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    <DIV 
    >From: 
    BobsKC 
    
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:00 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq 
top
    Great story.  Heard it before but had forgotten about 
    it.  Bottom line is that the top few percent of tax payers pay most of 
    the income taxes but democrats want it all.   Bush should win this 
    upcoming election by a wide margin but in four years, God help us all 
    because I don't see much of anything stopping Hillary considering the huge 
    percentage of women who claim they will vote for her and it's my opinion she 
    pushed for Kerry so Bush would win and she can run against a non-sitting 
    republican in 2008.  The Clintons still maintain a death grip on the 
    D.N.C.Thanks,BobAt 08:16 AM 3/6/2004 -0800, you 
    wrote:
    Speaking of low taxes, I don't 
      believe that the author noted at the bottom wrote this, but it is an 
      interesting analogy.  Sometimes Politicians can exclaim; 
      "It's just a tax cut for the rich!", and it is just accepted to be fact. 
      But what does that really mean? Justin case you are not completely 
      clear on this issue, we hope the following will help.Tax Cuts - A 
      Simple Lesson In EconomicsThis is how the cookie crumbles. Please 
      read it carefully.Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can 
      understand. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner.The bill 
      for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our 
      taxes, it would go something like this:The first four men (the 
      poorest) would pay nothing.The fifth would pay $1.The sixth would 
      pay $3.The seventh $7.The eighth $12.The ninth $18.The 
      tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.So, that's what they decided 
      to do.The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and 
      seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw 
      them a curve."Since you are all such good customers," he said, 
      "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."So, now 
      dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill 
      the way we pay our taxes.So, the first four men were 
      unaffected.They would still eat for free.  But what about the 
      other six, the paying customers?How could they divvy up the $20 
      windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?The six men 
      realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33.But if they subtracted that 
      from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each 
      end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.So, the restaurant owner 
      suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the 
      same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should 
      pay.And so:The fifth man, like the first 
      four, now paid nothing (100% savings).The sixth now paid $2 instead of 
      $3 (33% savings).The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% 
      savings).The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).The 
      ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).The tenth now paid $49 
      instead of $59 (16% savings).Each of the six was better off than 
      before. And the first four continued to eat for free.But once outside 
      the restaurant, the men began to  compare their savings."I 
      only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man.He pointed 
      to the tenth man "but he got $10!""Yeah, that's right," exclaimed 
      the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too.It's unfair that he got ten 
      times more than me!""That's true!!" shouted the seventh 
      man."Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get 
      all the breaks!""Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in 
      unison."We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the 
      poor!"The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him 
      up.The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the 
      nine sat down and ate without him.But when it came time to pay the 
      bill, they discovered something important.They didn't have enough 
      money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys 
      and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system 
      works.The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a 
      tax reduction.Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and 
      they just may not show up at the table anymore.There are lots of good 
      restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean.David R. Kamerschen, 
      Ph.D.Distinguished Professor of Economics536 Brooks 
      HallUniversity of Georgia 
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: delta88343@xxxxxxx 
        
        To: <A 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:36 AM
        Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
        In a message dated 3/5/04 12:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A 
        href="">mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
        The government still claims that there is no 
        inflation.  Gas prices are $2.50 per Gal. here.  Almost 
        everything that is purchased is transported by truck.  That cost 
        will also be on the rise.  
          
        Housing costs continue to rise. Just down 
        the road in Palo Alto the average home cost is $985,000.  Health 
        care costs and other insurance costs are skyrocketing as is the 
        commodity index.  How much longer can the government ignore what is 
        happening?  
          
        Low interest rates have not created new jobs 
        here, but India and other foreign countries are having a boon.  We 
        are shipping our jobs overseas where the service and manufacturing costs 
        are far less.  I have to admit, so is the quality of service 
        provided by the overseas support. 
          
        Just some thoughts.  
        Ira.\ This will continue to happen 
      because it has little effect on the "Haves." Their petrol bill going from 
      $50 a tank to $70 a tank on their SUV is barely worth discussing re: the 
      household finances. They work for companies that pay their health 
      insurance, or at least the bulk of it, and the large house they own has 
      doubled in value the past 5 years. Life is good! However, for 
      the poor "have nots", they will continue to suffer regarding the above. 
      Their meager earnings continue to get eaten away by the massive 
      inflationary spiral going on.  There is no one truly representing 
      them in the media because they are mostly affiliated with one party. If 
      rolls were reversed, and a democratic president was in office with the 
      same things going on, you know darn well the Republicans would be holding 
      congressional hearings, having investigations left and right regarding 
      everything that is going on in the energy markets, Bush and Cheney's 
      connections to Haliburton and the massive energy manipulation play that is 
      going on etc. I'm not trying to be political here, but thats 
      the reality. There is absolutely no direction, no vision, no goal, no 
      leadership within the democratic party. No one is raising any stink about 
      what is going on, you hear nothing about it in the media and it literally 
      borders on the criminal.  I am not politically affiliated one 
      way or the other and I love low taxes. The above is simply my 
      perceptions.    
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: EarlA 
        To: <A 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:42 AM
        Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
        Fascinating market action ... SPX has rallied to 1162.99 (within my 
        target range) while the price of the June 1150 puts I hold (and had 
        orders for more) has also rallied. This suggests that the market is 
        putting in a blow-off. Had to short emini since it looks like they won't 
        fill my put order.
          
        I assume that this rally is all about the perceived 
        notion that the Fed won't raise rates so the market can party longer. 
        Not a thought to the fact that continued employment problems will lead 
        to reduced consumption and other (economic and political) fall-out from 
        reduced consumer confidence. Foreign currencies are rallying hard which 
        means even higher energy prices are in the cards.
          
        Earl
          
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: EarlA 
        To: <A 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 6:11 AM
        Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
        SPX is very close to long standing target range of 1060-1073 which 
        includes: 50% retracement to ATH, 200% expansion of Oct02-Mar03 swing, 
        and Dec01-Mar02 triple top. 
          
        I closed out long emini position just ahead of 
        Thursday's close leaving in place a SPX put established on Wednesday. I 
        also have orders working to add to put position on any rally from 
        monthly Employment Lie. During the past couple of weeks I've closed out 
        all trading positions in stocks and now hold significant cash position. 
        I still like energy stocks and hold core positions to which I will add 
        during any correction in equities.
          
        There should be good support in the 1015+- area 
        which includes the 38% retracement to the Mar03 low and the Jun-Jul03 
        highs. If this area holds, then another run to higher highs (1250+-) 
        could be in the cards. On a fundamental basis, the market is richly 
        priced and risks are strongly to the downside should the public lose its 
        taste for speculation.
          
        Earl 
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        From: profitok 
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        Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:43 PM
        Subject: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
        Most likely  3/5/04  should be a 
        top for a while
          
        get out of longs and  if you have long 
        term gains  consider writing calls
          
        most likely next is  1050 on 
        sp
          
        if I am wrong, the max upside is only 10-15 
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