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The richest 37,000 people in this country have, in aggregate, 
the same income as the poorest 61,000,000.  Maybe it's OK for them to pay 
some taxes.
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  <DIV 
  >From: 
  BobsKC 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:00 
PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
  Great story.  Heard it before but had forgotten about 
  it.  Bottom line is that the top few percent of tax payers pay most of 
  the income taxes but democrats want it all.   Bush should win this 
  upcoming election by a wide margin but in four years, God help us all because 
  I don't see much of anything stopping Hillary considering the huge percentage 
  of women who claim they will vote for her and it's my opinion she pushed for 
  Kerry so Bush would win and she can run against a non-sitting republican in 
  2008.  The Clintons still maintain a death grip on the 
  D.N.C.Thanks,BobAt 08:16 AM 3/6/2004 -0800, you 
  wrote:
  Speaking of low taxes, I don't 
    believe that the author noted at the bottom wrote this, but it is an 
    interesting analogy.  Sometimes Politicians can exclaim; "It's 
    just a tax cut for the rich!", and it is just accepted to be fact. But what 
    does that really mean? Justin case you are not completely clear on this 
    issue, we hope the following will help.Tax Cuts - A Simple Lesson In 
    EconomicsThis is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it 
    carefully.Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. 
    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner.The bill for all ten 
    comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go 
    something like this:The first four men (the poorest) would pay 
    nothing.The fifth would pay $1.The sixth would pay $3.The 
    seventh $7.The eighth $12.The ninth $18.The tenth man (the 
    richest) would pay $59.So, that's what they decided to 
    do.The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed 
    quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a 
    curve."Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going 
    to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."So, now dinner for the 
    ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay 
    our taxes.So, the first four men were unaffected.They would 
    still eat for free.  But what about the other six, the paying 
    customers?How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone 
    would get his 'fair share'?The six men realized that $20 divided by 
    six is $3.33.But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then 
    the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their 
    meal.So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to 
    reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work 
    out the amounts each should pay.And so:The 
    fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).The 
    sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).The seventh now paid $5 
    instead of $7 (28% savings).The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% 
    savings).The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).The 
    tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).Each of the six was 
    better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free.But 
    once outside the restaurant, the men began to  compare their 
    savings."I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth 
    man.He pointed to the tenth man "but he got $10!""Yeah, that's 
    right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too.It's unfair 
    that he got ten times more than me!""That's true!!" shouted the 
    seventh man."Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy 
    get all the breaks!""Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in 
    unison."We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the 
    poor!"The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.The 
    next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and 
    ate without him.But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered 
    something important.They didn't have enough money between all of them 
    for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and 
    college professors, is how our tax system works.The people who pay the 
    highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction.Tax them too 
    much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the 
    table anymore.There are lots of good restaurants in Europe and the 
    Caribbean.David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.Distinguished Professor of 
    Economics536 Brooks HallUniversity of Georgia 
    
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: delta88343@xxxxxxx 
      
      To: <A 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:36 AM
      Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
      In a message dated 3/5/04 12:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A 
      href="">mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
      The government still claims that there is no 
      inflation.  Gas prices are $2.50 per Gal. here.  Almost 
      everything that is purchased is transported by truck.  That cost will 
      also be on the rise.  
       
      Housing costs continue to rise. Just down the 
      road in Palo Alto the average home cost is $985,000.  Health care 
      costs and other insurance costs are skyrocketing as is the commodity 
      index.  How much longer can the government ignore what is 
      happening?  
       
      Low interest rates have not created new jobs 
      here, but India and other foreign countries are having a boon.  We 
      are shipping our jobs overseas where the service and manufacturing costs 
      are far less.  I have to admit, so is the quality of service provided 
      by the overseas support. 
       
      Just some thoughts.  
      Ira.\ This will continue to happen because 
    it has little effect on the "Haves." Their petrol bill going from $50 a tank 
    to $70 a tank on their SUV is barely worth discussing re: the household 
    finances. They work for companies that pay their health insurance, or at 
    least the bulk of it, and the large house they own has doubled in value the 
    past 5 years. Life is good! However, for the poor "have nots", 
    they will continue to suffer regarding the above. Their meager earnings 
    continue to get eaten away by the massive inflationary spiral going 
    on.  There is no one truly representing them in the media because they 
    are mostly affiliated with one party. If rolls were reversed, and a 
    democratic president was in office with the same things going on, you know 
    darn well the Republicans would be holding congressional hearings, having 
    investigations left and right regarding everything that is going on in the 
    energy markets, Bush and Cheney's connections to Haliburton and the massive 
    energy manipulation play that is going on etc. I'm not trying 
    to be political here, but thats the reality. There is absolutely no 
    direction, no vision, no goal, no leadership within the democratic party. No 
    one is raising any stink about what is going on, you hear nothing about it 
    in the media and it literally borders on the criminal.  I am 
    not politically affiliated one way or the other and I love low taxes. The 
    above is simply my perceptions.    
    
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: EarlA 
      To: <A 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:42 AM
      Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
      Fascinating market action ... SPX has rallied to 1162.99 (within my 
      target range) while the price of the June 1150 puts I hold (and had orders 
      for more) has also rallied. This suggests that the market is putting in a 
      blow-off. Had to short emini since it looks like they won't fill my put 
      order.
       
      I assume that this rally is all about the perceived 
      notion that the Fed won't raise rates so the market can party longer. Not 
      a thought to the fact that continued employment problems will lead to 
      reduced consumption and other (economic and political) fall-out from 
      reduced consumer confidence. Foreign currencies are rallying hard which 
      means even higher energy prices are in the cards.
       
      Earl
       
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: EarlA 
      To: <A 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 6:11 AM
      Subject: Re: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
      SPX is very close to long standing target range of 1060-1073 which 
      includes: 50% retracement to ATH, 200% expansion of Oct02-Mar03 swing, and 
      Dec01-Mar02 triple top. 
       
      I closed out long emini position just ahead of 
      Thursday's close leaving in place a SPX put established on Wednesday. I 
      also have orders working to add to put position on any rally from monthly 
      Employment Lie. During the past couple of weeks I've closed out all 
      trading positions in stocks and now hold significant cash position. I 
      still like energy stocks and hold core positions to which I will add 
      during any correction in equities.
       
      There should be good support in the 1015+- area which 
      includes the 38% retracement to the Mar03 low and the Jun-Jul03 highs. If 
      this area holds, then another run to higher highs (1250+-) could be in the 
      cards. On a fundamental basis, the market is richly priced and risks are 
      strongly to the downside should the public lose its taste for 
      speculation.
       
      Earl 
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      Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:43 PM
      Subject: [RT] sp500/nasdaq top
      Most likely  3/5/04  should be a top 
      for a while
       
      get out of longs and  if you have long 
      term gains  consider writing calls
       
      most likely next is  1050 on 
sp
       
      if I am wrong, the max upside is only 10-15 sp 
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