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Nice post Kent.
 
This brings another thought to mind regarding the 
recent tax cut package.  Some of the whining coming from the dems is quite 
interesting.  If in fact the most recent package is going to lead us to 
Armageddon, which of course it won't, then they ought to be jumping for 
joy since it would help them in 2004.....
 
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  Kent 
  Rollins 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
  
  
  >The current 
  economic condition is SYSTEMIC....and thus resistant to "Quick 
  fixes".
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  Three years of a down economy is not 
  "quick".  And "resistant" is not impermeable.
   
  
  >Bush fired 
  Laurel and Hardy (O'Neill and Lindsay)  because they told him you can't 
  cut taxes, wage expensive war, and continue sponsoring a huge, costly 
  bureaucracy in Washington....it's economic suicide in the long 
  run.
  
  >That's why 
  he fired them....but THEY were right.
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  If O'Neill and Lindsay were in your 
  opinion right, then why do you refer to them as Laurel and Hardy.  This 
  is part of your problem, MASSIVE Mark.  You are overly critical of 
  everything.  We're either going to have MASSIVE inflation or MASSIVE 
  deflation.  You don't care which as long as it is MASSIVE and 
  destructive.
   
  
  >These 
  deficit projections are just the tip-of-the-iceberg.......and incredibly, 
  there is still no talk of government cut-backs in spending programs and 
  transfer payments.....just incredible !
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  Bush is smart politically.  There was 
  a study done in the late 80's that said for every new dollar of tax money 
  brought to the government by economic growth, Washington spent $1.30 (or some 
  figure like that).  That was the 80's.  I doubt things have 
  changed.  Bush is choking of Washington's money supply.  That's the 
  only way to get them to reduce spending.  It's the only way PERIOD.  
  You seem to think that these bigger deficits are a problem.  Recently, 
  there was a book published that studied the effects of large national debts on 
  countries.  England in the 1800's had a national debt that was 300% of 
  GDP.  THAT'S MASSIVE, MARK.  A number even you would 
  appreciate.  They built up that debt thru wars and empire building.  
  But it wasn't a problem for England.  They paid it off and now they are 
  just fine.
   
  The only way to make Tiny Daschle say 
  "Well, I guess we don't have money for new social-dependency (aka vote-buying) 
  programs." is to put him in a deficit position.  What are the Dumocrats 
  really complaining about today?  Listen carefully.  They are 
  complaining that they can't enact a drug benenfits program (aka social 
  dependency program, aka vote-buying program).  They are complaining 
  that they can't make healthcare free for everyone.  They don't want to 
  pay down the debt.  They want to take our money from us and use it to 
  make us dependent on a social welfare State.  Despite the fact that we 
  know socialism and welfare failed...MASSIVELY.
   
  The only way...THE ONLY WAY...to cut 
  Washington's spending habit is to take away their money.  And THAT is 
  exactly what Nucular George is doing.
   
  Do you see anything in the world today 
  that is going right, MASSIVE Mark?  Anything positive?
   
  Kent Rollins
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: <A 
  title=mar.ko@xxxxxxxxxxx href="">Mark Simms 

  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:55 AM
  Subject: RE: Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
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  I'm not 
  thinking MASSIVE here, only LONG-TERM.
  Part of my 
  bearishness comes from the current high PE Ratios for one....there just seems 
  to be so much ANTICIPATION for a big recovery here...
  I don't see it, 
  quite frankly.
  Bush fired 
  Laurel and Hardy (O'Neill and Lindsay)  because they told him you can't 
  cut taxes, wage expensive war, and continue sponsoring a huge, costly 
  bureaucracy in Washington....it's economic suicide in the long 
  run.
  Bush did not 
  want to hear this....moreover, h<SPAN 
  class=930204604-25052003>e's 
  "dumb"...economically.
  That's why he 
  fired them....but THEY were right.
  These deficit 
  projections are just the tip-of-the-iceberg.......and incredibly, there is 
  still no talk of government cut-backs in spending programs and transfer 
  payments.....just incredible !
  Unfortunately, 
  Bush may be out of office before this is proven 
  correct.....
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    <FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Kent Rollins 
    [mailto:kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 8:16 
    AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: Re[3]: 
    [RT] spx daily
    How can YOU ignore everything besides the tech 
    sector?  If everything but the tech sector has turned the corner on the 
    economy, that sounds like a good thing to me.
     
    With respect to the "derivatives bubble", prove 
    to me that there is one.  This is the first I've heard about it.  
    Lately, Warren Buffet has been saying a lot of stuff with 
    which I don't agree.
     
    FYI, consumers have been repairing their 
    balance sheets as well.  Sorry I can't remember the numbers on that one 
    either.  It's not as dramatic as the improvements on the corporate 
    side, but it was an improvement.
     
    So you're joining Simms on 
    predicting MASSIVE Great Depression II.
     
    Kent Rollins
     
     
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: <A 
    title=bradcline@xxxxxxxxx href="">Brad Cline 
    
    To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:08 AM
    Subject: RE: Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
    
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>How can you ignore the tech sector? That's like pro forma accounting. 
    If I didn't have to  make my house payment everything is rosy. The 
    markets have seen their lows only if the derivitivies bubble doesn't burst, 
    or consumer debt doesn't come home to roost. Warren Buffet has said that 
    derivities are a "time bomb" waiting to happen. Maybe the fed will be able 
    to balance everything out over time but I wouldn't bet on 
    it.
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      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Kent Rollins 
      [mailto:kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:12 
      PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: Re[3]: 
      [RT] spx daily
      Corporations have been doing balance sheet 
      repair for 2 years now.  AT&T alone has eliminate over $50 
      BILLION in debt.  I saw on the tube last week someone who had a 
      stunning statistic on what the S&P profits are if you ignore the tech 
      sector.  Wish I could remember what that statistic was.  And the 
      tech sector will fall in line soon enough.  You are stuck in a 
      rut.  The markets have seen their lows.  Shake it 
      off.
       
      Kent 
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