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>The current 
economic condition is SYSTEMIC....and thus resistant to "Quick 
fixes".
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Three years of a down economy is not 
"quick".  And "resistant" is not impermeable.
 

>Bush fired 
Laurel and Hardy (O'Neill and Lindsay)  because they told him you can't cut 
taxes, wage expensive war, and continue sponsoring a huge, costly bureaucracy in 
Washington....it's economic suicide in the long run.

>That's why he 
fired them....but THEY were right.
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If O'Neill and Lindsay were in your opinion 
right, then why do you refer to them as Laurel and Hardy.  This is part of 
your problem, MASSIVE Mark.  You are overly critical of 
everything.  We're either going to have MASSIVE inflation or MASSIVE 
deflation.  You don't care which as long as it is MASSIVE and 
destructive.
 

>These deficit 
projections are just the tip-of-the-iceberg.......and incredibly, there is still 
no talk of government cut-backs in spending programs and transfer 
payments.....just incredible !
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Bush is smart politically.  There was a 
study done in the late 80's that said for every new dollar of tax money brought 
to the government by economic growth, Washington spent $1.30 (or some figure 
like that).  That was the 80's.  I doubt things have changed.  
Bush is choking of Washington's money supply.  That's the only way to get 
them to reduce spending.  It's the only way PERIOD.  You seem to think 
that these bigger deficits are a problem.  Recently, there was a book 
published that studied the effects of large national debts on countries.  
England in the 1800's had a national debt that was 300% of GDP.  THAT'S 
MASSIVE, MARK.  A number even you would appreciate.  They built up 
that debt thru wars and empire building.  But it wasn't a problem for 
England.  They paid it off and now they are just fine.
 
The only way to make Tiny Daschle say "Well, 
I guess we don't have money for new social-dependency (aka vote-buying) 
programs." is to put him in a deficit position.  What are the Dumocrats 
really complaining about today?  Listen carefully.  They are 
complaining that they can't enact a drug benenfits program (aka social 
dependency program, aka vote-buying program).  They are complaining 
that they can't make healthcare free for everyone.  They don't want to pay 
down the debt.  They want to take our money from us and use it to make us 
dependent on a social welfare State.  Despite the fact that we know 
socialism and welfare failed...MASSIVELY.
 
The only way...THE ONLY WAY...to cut 
Washington's spending habit is to take away their money.  And THAT is 
exactly what Nucular George is doing.
 
Do you see anything in the world today that 
is going right, MASSIVE Mark?  Anything positive?
 
Kent Rollins
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <A 
title=mar.ko@xxxxxxxxxxx href="">Mark Simms 
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:55 AM
Subject: RE: Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
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I'm not thinking 
MASSIVE here, only LONG-TERM.
Part of my 
bearishness comes from the current high PE Ratios for one....there just seems to 
be so much ANTICIPATION for a big recovery here...
I don't see it, 
quite frankly.
Bush fired Laurel 
and Hardy (O'Neill and Lindsay)  because they told him you can't cut taxes, 
wage expensive war, and continue sponsoring a huge, costly bureaucracy in 
Washington....it's economic suicide in the long run.
Bush did not want 
to hear this....moreover, h<FONT 
color=#0000ff size=2>e's "dumb"...economically.
That's why he 
fired them....but THEY were right.
These deficit 
projections are just the tip-of-the-iceberg.......and incredibly, there is still 
no talk of government cut-backs in spending programs and transfer 
payments.....just incredible !
Unfortunately, 
Bush may be out of office before this is proven correct.....
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Kent Rollins 
  [mailto:kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 8:16 
  AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: Re[3]: 
  [RT] spx daily
  How can YOU ignore everything besides the tech 
  sector?  If everything but the tech sector has turned the corner on the 
  economy, that sounds like a good thing to me.
   
  With respect to the "derivatives bubble", prove 
  to me that there is one.  This is the first I've heard about it.  
  Lately, Warren Buffet has been saying a lot of stuff with which 
  I don't agree.
   
  FYI, consumers have been repairing their balance 
  sheets as well.  Sorry I can't remember the numbers on that one 
  either.  It's not as dramatic as the improvements on the corporate side, 
  but it was an improvement.
   
  So you're joining Simms on 
  predicting MASSIVE Great Depression II.
   
  Kent Rollins
   
   
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: <A 
  title=bradcline@xxxxxxxxx href="">Brad Cline 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:08 AM
  Subject: RE: Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
  
  How 
  can you ignore the tech sector? That's like pro forma accounting. If I didn't 
  have to  make my house payment everything is rosy. The markets have seen 
  their lows only if the derivitivies bubble doesn't burst, or consumer debt 
  doesn't come home to roost. Warren Buffet has said that derivities are a "time 
  bomb" waiting to happen. Maybe the fed will be able to balance everything out 
  over time but I wouldn't bet on it.
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    [mailto:kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:12 
    PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: Re[3]: 
    [RT] spx daily
    Corporations have been doing balance sheet 
    repair for 2 years now.  AT&T alone has eliminate over $50 BILLION 
    in debt.  I saw on the tube last week someone who had a stunning 
    statistic on what the S&P profits are if you ignore the tech 
    sector.  Wish I could remember what that statistic was.  And the 
    tech sector will fall in line soon enough.  You are stuck in a 
    rut.  The markets have seen their lows.  Shake it 
off.
     
    Kent 
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