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the rummers are on the floor that they pay 
specialist firm to push the botton on buy programs, and  pay the 
cost
Ben
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  >From: 
  Kent 
  Rollins 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 11:07 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
  
  The Fed doesn't control the Dow.  (realistic 
  thinking on my part)
   
  Kent Rollins
   
   
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  From: <A 
  title=profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx href="">profitok 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
  
  I think  because of the comming 
  election  the  fed  rescue  tram is NOT  going to 
  let  index go under 8000
  (maybe wishfull thinking on my part)
  Ben
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    >From: 
    Brad 
    Cline 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:14 
    PM
    Subject: RE: Re[3]: [RT] spx 
daily
    
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    size=2>Who has held the DOW up then? All the foriegn indices have traded at 
    1994 or lower levels. We have not traded near those levels. The fed is 
    not dead but is severely hobbled. I agree with you on the other points. 
    Funnymentally we should be much lower.
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      <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Mark Simms 
      [mailto:mar.ko@xxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 7:03 
      PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: Re[3]: 
      [RT] spx daily
      Don't watch 
      the Fed...the "Fed's Dead".....monetary policy becomes useless and 
      worthless with nominal interest rates near zero....that's why that 
      bumbling idot Greenspan has been talking in circles lately.....he has no 
      plan, no effective agenda.
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        size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Brad Cline 
        [mailto:bradcline@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 9:38 
        PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: 
        Re[3]: [RT] spx daily
        I copied this. It is interesting if 
        not true. I know we had a ton of timing for last week but so far we have 
        got a 2 day retrace with a V bottom. I find it hard to believe that the 
        FED will let the market fall to far with it being so close to 
        "salvation" in the public's eyes.
         
        The hypothesis offered is 
        that the Federal Reserve artificially supports the DOW and the US 
        currency with permanent and temporary repurchase agreement funding. That 
        funding is then utilized in the open markets by the borrowers, the large 
        trading houses of Wall Street. Abnormal activity in the futures markets 
        suggests that the home for this funding are the major index futures 
        which, when bought, support the underlying individual stocks.The 
        metric to watch is not the daily repo issuances but the repo pool totals 
        which can only be obtained by keeping at least a 28 day running total of 
        both the repos and their scheduled expirations. For example, an issuance 
        of $20 Billion means little if there is an expiration of the same amount 
        that day. The key is to measure the aggregate pool totals since it is 
        that pool that determines how much repo money can be used to buy index 
        futures on any given day.Today's [May 22, 2003] Fed Repo 
        Action The Fed did 
        not allow the repo total pool to fall today. They issued $15.25 Billion 
        in new repurchase agreements. When the $11.25 Billion in expirations are 
        accounted for we see that the repo pool has risen to $40 Billion. The 
        DOW this morning [10:40AM] is up 85 points. It’s an open question 
        whether the Fed will ever allow the DOW to fall so index shorters 
        beware! It is far better to be long gold and its shares than short the 
        markets under this external Fed interventional policy.The repo 
        pool metric is gaining validity as time passes as the DOW keeps tracking 
        with the repo total pool number. So far the $30 Billion level seems 
        necessary to hold the DOW level. Above that and the DOW rises 
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          -----Original 
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          [mailto:bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 
          6:07 PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
          Re[3]: [RT] spx dailyAgain, what is the 
          bullish sentiment?  What people tell pollsters or what they 
          actually do?  If you go by what they are doing, and if you 
          believe in contrarian principals, (which you obviously do), then 
          you would be long.BobAt 03:18 AM 5/23/2003 +0400, 
          you wrote:>Hello BobsKC,>>I am short. To me 
          highest bullish sentiment is a sign of near top.>>Best 
          regards,>  
          Alex                            
          mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxx>>>Friday, May 23, 2003, 
          3:01:13 AM, you wrote:>>B> Bullish sentiment may be 
          high but in fact, shorting is robust and getting>B> 
          stronger.  So do we go by what people say or what they 
          do?>>B> Bob>>>>B> At 
          02:52 AM 5/23/2003 +0400, you wrote:> >>Hello 
          Mark,> >>> >>%Bearish today is lowest since 
          1991:> >>> >><A 
          href="">http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/streetools/inv_intel.asp> 
          >>> >>". High readings suggest excessive optimism, 
          which typically occurs> >>when buying strength has been 
          tapped out, and low readings represent> >>depleted 
          selling strength, and tend to precede market rallies. We> 
          >>normally view a bullish percentage higher than 55 combined 
          with a> >>bearish reading lower 30% as bearish for the 
          market."> >>> >>> >>Best 
          regards,> >>  
          Alex                            
          mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxx> >>> >>> 
          >>Thursday, May 22, 2003, 9:36:17 PM, you wrote:> 
          >>> >>MS> You meant "higher high", right 
          ?> >>MS> Don't underestimate the bulls....they are 
          wildly optimistic right> >>MS> now.....and holding 
          this market up.> >>MS> Bull-Bear survey ratio now at 
          the highest point in years....> >>MS>   
          -----Original Message-----> >>MS>   From: 
          none [mailto:profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> 
          >>MS>   Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:40 
          PM> >>MS>   To: 
          realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>MS>   
          Subject: Re: [RT] spx daily> >>> >>> 
          >>MS>   Hello> >>> 
          >>MS>   I am with you  that  there is a 
          high probability that we make a> >>lower high> 
          >>MS> tomorrow or Fri. and then  collapse> 
          >>MS>   Ben> 
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          -----> >>MS>     From: Rhonda 
          Guilbeaux> >>MS>     To: 
          realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
          >>MS>     Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 
          7:37 PM> >>MS>     Subject: [RT] 
          spx daily> >>> >>> 
          >>MS>     Last quarter's candle waist 
          882.> >>MS>     right at the 200 
          dma area.> >>> 
          >>MS>     Higher support..at the 898 
          area.. (near the rising 50dma)> 
          >>MS>     Wouldn't  be surprised to 
          see this price level tested.. and also to> >>MS> hold, 
          initially> >>MS>     
          anyway.> >>MS>     if not, 867-882 
          looks to be a good higher support area.> 
          >>MS>     Breaking above last weeks highs 
          and more important> >>MS>     
          953-955  then I am incorrect in my assessment  that last 
          week's> >>MS>     high is "semi" 
          important and perhaps> >>MS>     a 
          slightly stronger pullback than what> 
          >>MS>     we've seen thus far coming off 
          the> >>MS>     March higher 
          low.> >>> >>MS>     
          Tend to think any high made latter week> 
          >>MS>     will be a lower high than last 
          weeks> >>MS>     high as> 
          >>MS>     last weeks low was broken 
          below.> >>MS>     I do> 
          >>MS>     Best,> 
          >>MS>     Rhonda> >>> 
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