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Re: [RT] Actually trading the analysis



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As someone struggling with the same issues, here 
are some of my personal lessons (not recommendations).
I think trading has a lot to do with personality 
(as Ramon pointed out).  I want to make money but with little risk.  
And I cannot trade the 3 / 5  minute charts since they require speed and 
offer excitement that I am not comfortable with.  My analysis works, the 
drawdowns are smaller, but the speed kills me when I trade short 
timeframes.
Therefore, I wait (with a great deal of 
impatience) for what I consider to be a low risk trade, e.g., very overbought / 
oversold situations, market clearly trending in a certain direction, base / top 
formations, on longer timeframes.
I use a combination of structure (trend 
lines, Hurst cycles, channels, etc.) and momentum (MACD, RSI) to determine my 
entries and let the trades come to me (thanks Clyde).  I prefer to use 15 
minute+ timeframes ... usually 45 minutes to daily for my 
analysis.  I have also realized 
that it is ok for 30% trades to be unprofitable, 30% to be marginally profitable 
/ breakeven and of the remaining 40% profitable trades, not all will be home 
runs.  Not very comforting since I would like to make lots of money on lots 
of trades, but even these ratios work out.  E.g., lose 4 points for 
losses and make 8 points for profitable still yields you good 
money.
So my money management parameters are designed 
keeping these in mind.  It determines where I will put my stops, it 
determines how I move my trailing stops when a move goes my way, and since I 
watch momentum very closely, it adjusts the room I permit my profits (sometimes 
to my detriment, e.g., today I was short, tightened my trailing and got stopped 
out very early - yuck).  Obviously one would give more room on a 45 minute 
chart than on a 3 minute chart but if the above trade-offs have been analyzed, 
then one can be pretty profitable.
Occasionally I miss trades since they do not come 
to me but that is alright.  And on days when I am out of sync, I lock 
my order bar and walk away ... It is very important to approach each trade as if 
the previous one had not happened.  That prevents bias (fear, exuberance) 
from changing the approach.
There are those who suggest that the market is 
deterministic and not probabilistic ... i.e., they forecast price and 
time.  Since I do not have those skills, I continue to look for low risk, 
high probability trades.
I hope this helps,
Navtej
 
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  ketayun 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:27 
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  Subject: [RT] Actually trading the 
  analysis
  Hi,I was wondering if anyone has any 
  personal/book/website suggestions about how to enter/exit trades. I find that 
  on paper what I project within time/price comes true about 90% of the time. 
  However I don't make the profits. At first I would 
  enter on the first signal only to find the stock to slightly reverse and then 
  I would exit (going flat)out of relief . My next thought was to enter on a 
  pull-back but often the trend is so strong that there is no pull-back until 
  after it reaches my profit objective or if I just jump in somewhere before the 
  profit is reached panic sets in because I did not have any clear signal to do 
  so. BTW I use 65,39,13 and 5 minute charts. Major pattern is usually on larger 
  time frames with entry/exit on smaller (to keep losses down).Any and 
  all suggestions welcome.Thanks,Kate To 
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