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BobR,
 
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I read that Joe Duffy has written a new 14 page book called Bulls Eye trading 
where he shows how to identify high probability Support and Resistance 
zones,pivot points,pivot point channels,and market symmetry.He discusses his use 
of Fibonacci Retracement levels,and also contains some day trading 
secrets.
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I visited his website <A 
href="">http://www.smartedgetrading.com , 
but I found only the Duffy Tradesheet hotline,which is a daily service 
specializing in Futures,Options and stock indices.He also has a track record 
that shows that he has a pretty good handle on the day to day direction in the 
stock market.Plus he also provides Projected High and low numbers for the next 
day. However his newsletter contains long term,short term and intermediate 
views.
 
       The accuracy 
of Joe's Projected High and Projected low is pretty good,but he is not 
willing to reveal how they are calculated. According to Duffy " It is 
not an exaggeration to say this work has exceeded my expectations. I have never 
received as much positive feedback from clients about anything as I have the 
Projected High and Projected Low points. The market has turned at the Projected 
High or Projected Low within a few ticks about 70% of the time when these points 
have been tested.
 
     But BobR I could 
not find the Pivot Point channel on that website? Is there any other website 
where the software is available,or is it available on the 
 Tradestation add ons list?Also is there a software available for 
calculating the next day's Projected High and Low,as also the expected market 
direction for the day.
 
     Please pardon my ignorance,but 
what does typical price of  current date mean in practical terms.And BobR 
Sir,there appears to be a discrepancy to my untrained eye in the Multiple Pivot 
Periods email dated Monday April 28th.Under the heading current 
observations,point number 3 states that the April monthly pivot is currently at 
887 ( yellow cross),whereas under the heading MULTIPLE PERIOD PIVOT 
PERSPECTIVE,you have clearly stated that the yellow cross = typical price of 
current month,and the monthly pivot = a yellow dashed line and not a yellow 
cross as mentioned in point number 3 under the heading Current 
observations.
 
   I am not trying to criticize you,but I am 
really confused as to what does the typical price mean in practical terms and so 
also the pivot's practical significance.
 
   You also mentioned that" the Duffy pivot 
channels on 5 min bars seemed to be capturing price movement and predicting 
Support/Resistance beyond chance".You said that "it was as if some influential 
players or automatic systems were trading off higher time frame levels",and also 
that "there was a consensus of buying back on 4/16  and again on 4/22 as 
the weekly pivot was a launching pad for rallies".This was an eye opener 
for me in trying to understand how the markets move.
 
  Also I would like to know your 
experience with the 5 min Duffy pivot channels.Has it significantly translated 
into much higher profits in day trading than before?And how is one supposed to 
use the bands for trading -buy  when the price touches the lower band and 
sell when price touches the upper band?
 
 Also I would like to enquire whether any of Joe 
Duffy's seminars on video tape or CD ROM were made,and does anyone have a copy 
of a Seminar.Also,it was mentioned on SmartEdgetrading.com that Joe had been a 
Trading Teacher for an online trading seminar in 
which the real time trading account went from $10k to $70K in 
approximately 6 months. Over 700 trades and 78% winning trading 
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 Is anybody aware 
that Joe is going to conduct a similar seminar online again,because he loves to 
teach,and you'll see advertisements in Futures Magazine,TASC,and Active trader 
about upcoming seminars and I,living in India am not privy to such 
information.
 
 I think that with these new Pivot channels and 
discovery of accurate Support and Resistance levels,market symmetry and 
Projected High and low have greatly enhanced Joe Duffy's repertoire of intraday 
trading tools and definitely warrants a seminar to explain it in 
detail.
 
Also,on the smartedgetrading.com site,only Joe Duffy's 
newsletter is mentioned. Is there some other site where all of Joe's recent 
discoveries is mentioned?Right now the only information on Joe Duffy's new 
intraday trading tools was mentioned only in the contents of his new 14 page 
book called Bulls Eye trading.
 
Thanking you for your brilliant deduction 
BobR,
Yours sincerely,
Sanjay
Dr.Sanjay Lulla
India
 
 
 
 
       

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  BobR 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 4:58 
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  Subject: Re: [RT] Multiple Period 
  Pivots
  
  followthrough.... now wouldn't you know they 
  would split the difference between the daily and weekly pivots! on the first 
  two tries.
   
  bobr
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    <A title=bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">BobR 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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    Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:33 
    AM
    Subject: Re: [RT] Multiple Period 
    Pivots
    
    The previous post used daily data.  This 
    one uses 15 minute bars and has the same daily, weekly, monthly pivots and 
    typical prices.  All the lines were created with the TS built in tool 
    Custom 1 Line.  The formulas are on the chart for those not familiar 
    with them.  I did this little exercise because the Duffy Pivot Channels 
    on 5 minute bars seemed to be captuing price movement  and predicting 
    support/resistance beyond chance.  It was as though some influential 
    players or automatic systems were trading off higher timeframe levels.  
    There was a consensus of buying back on 4/16  and again on 4/22 as the 
    weekly pivot was a launching pad for rallies.  Now here we are facing 
    Monday(Sunday PM) with the SP below the weekly pivot and daily pivot.  
    If the floor and ceiling theory of support/resistance holds, then the weekly 
    pivot at 901.1 level should be resistance.  The next higher time frame 
    support is the monthly typical price at 887.9.  That of course is just 
    one scenario.  The SP could work above the weekly and daily pivot again 
    next week at which time it would become support again.....just something to 
    watch for.
     
    enjoy,
    bobr
     
     
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      To: <A 
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      Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:39 
      PM
      Subject: [RT] Multiple Period 
      Pivots
      Decided to check out the concept of confluence of 
      pivots in different timeperiods, daily, weekly, monthly.  
      Intraday on Friday the daily pivot was thesell point based on 
      Thursday's HLC.  Friday's close of 898.6 was below theweekly 
      pivot at 901.  Did you notice on Friday there was a lot of 
      sidewaysmovement below 900 after the AM drop.  Wonder if that had 
      anything to dowith the weekly pivot?  The weekly pivot is above 
      the monthly pivot at887.8.  4/23 had a maximum bullish(or 
      contrarily bearish) configurationconsidering the relationship of pivot 
      periods.  That was similar to the lowsin Feb and March.  The 
      March 31st low had a confluence of daily weekly andmonthly before the 
      snp rocketed upward.  March 3rd had a confluence of dailyweekly 
      monthly as it went into sell mode.  The 887.8 April pivot will 
      movelower if the snp close moves lower since it is composed of the 
      monthly HLC.There is also a lot of price congestion at the 888 
      level.  That seems to meto be a market logic place for price to 
      end the month.  Also, 890.5 is a 50%retrace of the BC 
      swing.bobrTo unsubscribe from 
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