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Re: [RT] Option order cancellation fees



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Doesn't Eurex have a fee structure along those lines?  Something 
like "X number of messages into the trading system per day is 
reasonable for your type of client.  X+Y we'll tolerate, but we'll 
charge you for Y" with X being a fairly high number and tied to the 
actual volume transacted by that client.

--- In realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Hill, Ernest E" 
<ernie.hill@xxxx> wrote:
> I am with you Earl. I may stop trading index options strictly on
> principal since I frequently alter my bids as the market moves. The 
idea
> of hitting small traders that trade in lots of 10-20 with this fee 
is
> absurd. If the reason is to target system abusers then it should be 
a
> fee based on volume of order cancellations not every one.
>  
> E
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: EarlA [mailto:earl.a@x...] 
> 	Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 5:34 PM
> 	To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 	Subject: Re: [RT] Option order cancellation fees
> 	
> 	
> 	So you penalize the small traders because they don't deal in 
50
> contracts at
> 	a time. The small traders pull back and now there is less
> liquidity ... but
> 	then the only good liquidity is liquidity provided by market
> makers ... what
> 	a crock. So too is the assumption that brokerage firms will 
not
> pass along
> 	the fee because they won't get hit with it 98% of the time. 
When
> you have a
> 	brokerage firm which runs razor thin commissions, they are 
going
> to assume
> 	that they will get hit with it because they can't afford to
> assume that they
> 	won't. Yes, maybe the fat cat brokerage firms like Schwab and
> Fidelity,
> 	which charge high commissions can eat the fee, but so what. 
And
> you can kiss
> 	GTC orders via the deep discount firms goodbye because their
> customers will
> 	get hit with a cancellation fee for canceling or modifying the
> order.
> 	
> 	I pay $1.00 to IB to execute one $16,000 contract for a deep 
in
> the money
> 	SPX Put and you guys charge me $1.20 to cancel an order ... 
what
> a deal!
> 	
> 	I can't wait to return the call I received from the SEC today!
> 	
> 	Earl
> 	
> 	
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