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[RT] Re: Option order cancellation fees



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That argument about bandwidth is spurious.  One, bandwidth is getting 
cheaper all the time, two, a single order cancellation is literally a 
few bytes at most - the cost of transmitting it or taking it in is, 
let's say:

100 bytes (being generous and including overhead)
= 800 bits.

A T1 line running at 1,544,000 bits/s costs about USD750/month in the 
US.  Let's use that as a benchmark.  It handles 1,544,000 x 86,400 x 
30 bits/month = 4 x 10^12 bits/month.

[800 / (4 x 10^12)] x USD750 = USD0.00000015  Seriously.

Given that cost, charging USD1.20 *must* be motivated by something 
other than the desire to make a profit on comms alone.

--- In realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dan Goncharoff <TheGonch@xxxx> 
wrote:
> The issue for the exchanges is purely a technical one. Bandwidth is 
a 
> major fixed expense. Constant updating of prices for far OTM 
options 
> that don't trade takes as much bandwidth as updates for ATMs. All 
> traders would have to be penalized to pay for the construction of 
more 
> bandwidth. Instead, the exchange has taxed bandwidth use, which 
will hit 
> hardest those who use bandwidth excessively.
> 
> That said, I think I already made the observation in a previous 
message 
> that Eurex, which I am closer to, only taxes bandwidth use above a 
> 'normal' amount, which means the typical retail customer never sees 
it. 
> The tax being charged in the US seems to apply to every update, and 
so 
> is penalizing those who did not cause the problem, which does look 
unfair.
> 
> Regards
> DanG
> 
> Terry B. Rhodes wrote:
> 
> >I'm a little slow, so correct me if I'm wrong, but 
> >correctly interpreted this really means... ...Firms were 
> >adding liquidity, cutting into our spreads (to the benefit 
> >of retail customers), so we all got together and decided 
> >to penalize them with a tax instead of via true competition.
> >
> >Sounds like the SOES battle all over again.
> >
> >It seems especially wrong that the ISE is taking part in 
> >this. In the past I've always routed my orders to them as 
> >a sign of support. This will no longer be true.
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >tbr
> >
> >  
> >
> >>From: Mano Appapillai <manoappapillai@xxxx>
> >>Subject: Re: Option order cancellation fees
> >>
> >>Here is the response from a person closer to the Exchanges :
> >>    
> >>
> > >
> >  
> >
> >>There were some firms that where sending thousands of orders
> >>per second and then cancel and replacing them with a slight move 
of the underlying.
> >>They were essentially trying to act as market makers.  This not 
only ties up the resources of the exchange,
> >>but also of the brokerage firms and ISVs.  Just think of all the 
option classes and strike prices they
> >>would constantly readjust and you can imagine the order flow 
without any revenue generating trading occurring.
> >>
> >>
> >>Mano Appapillai
> >>
> >>4565 Saddle Mountain Ct
> >>
> >>San Diego, CA 92130
> >>
> >>Tel : 858 794 8494
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
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